Intel Core i3-8350K Review

Entry-level desktop processor released in 2017 with 4 cores and 4 threads. With base clock at 4GHz, max speed at 4GHz, and a 91W power rating. Core i3-8350K is based on the Coffee Lake 14nm family and part of the Core i3 series.
Price 45%
Speed 78%
Productivity 61%
Gaming 89%
Category Desktop
Target entry-level
Socket Compatibility LGA1151
Integrated Graphics Intel UHD Graphics 630
Cooler Included No
Overclock Potential 1 %
Year 2017 Model
Price 168 USD
Number of Cores 4 Cores
Number of Threads 4 Threads
Core Frequency 4 GHz
Boost Frequency 4 GHz
Max Stable Overclock 4 GHz
Power Consumption 91 W
Manufacturing Process 14 nm
L3 Cache 8 MB
Maximum Supported Memory 64 GB
Price-Value Score 45 %
Speed Score 78 %
Productivity Score 61 %
Gaming Score 89 %
Max 1080p Bottleneck 28 %
Max 1440p Bottleneck 14 %
Max 4K Bottleneck 7 %
Overall Score 39/100

The Core i3-8350K is one of Intel's entry-level Desktop processors. It was released in 2017 with 4 cores and 4 threads. With base clock at 4GHz, max speed at 4GHz, and a 91W power rating. The Core i3-8350K is based on the Coffee Lake 14nm family and is part of the Core i3 series.

Core i3-8350K is also the successor of Intel's last gen Core i3-7350K processor that was based on the Kaby Lake-S and 14nm process and was released in 2017.

In our mind, the best processors are the ones that deliver outstanding performance at a reasonable price point. And, the Core i3-8350K absolutely nails this concept.

Unfortunately, this doesn’t quite translate to as strong of a single-core performance, even if Intel is closer than it’s ever been to matching AMD core for core. In our single-core GeekBench and Cinebench tests, the Core i3-8350K scored a 4260 and 171, respectively. This is definitely a huge leap over the Core i3-7350K, but it’s slower than the Ryzen 5 2400G, which scored a 4295 and 155 in the same tests. But, that’s still not a huge difference, so the multi-core gains generally outweigh them.

That something is the Core i3-8350K. Intel cranks the TDP dial up to 91W on this 4-core 4-thread chip, making it the high-performance counterpart to the 62W Core i3-8300, which is basically the same 14nm chip built with the Coffee Lake microarchitecture, but with a lower TDP rating. That chip came away from our first look at the Coffee Lake series with an Editor's Choice award, going toe-to-toe with AMD's Ryzen 5 2400G, so it's fair to say we have high hopes for the higher-performance model. Intel still hasn't sampled the chip to the press, so we bought one at retail to put it under the microscope.

But we've also found that, after simple push-button overclocking, the Core i3-8300 offers similar performance to the Core i3-8350K, even when it is also overclocked. But for $70 less. The Core i3-8350K is an impressive chip and offers a better mixture of performance than AMD's Ryzen 3 3200G, no doubt, but in this case, value seekers might opt for its less expensive sibling.

As the higher-priced version of the Core i3-8300, the Core i3-8350K has higher base and Boost frequencies of 4 and 4 GHz, respectively. That's an increase in base frequency and a bump to boost clocks, but the real advantage should lay in the higher Package Power Tracking (PPT) envelope, which is a measurement of the maximum amount of power delivered to the socket. The Core i3-8300's PPT tops out at 62W, while the motherboard can pump up to 142W to the Core i3-8350K at peak performance. That opens up much more aggressive boost behavior, on both single and multiple cores, that could widen the performance gap beyond what we see on the spec sheet.

The Intel Core i3-8350K was rolled out on Oct 2017 for $168, which puts it in the same general price range as the last-generation Core i3-7350K. This means that at least we're not seeing any considerable price jumps from generation to generation.

Bear in mind, however, that if you already have something like the Core i3-7350K, this generation doesn't offer the biggest boost in performance. You might want to wait another year or so before dropping a few hundred bucks, or even opt to splurge on a higher-end but pricier chip.

So which should you buy? Let's get that out of the way. Before this comparison review we updated our Best CPU feature and we said you should go with the Ryzen 5 2400G as it comes with a better stock cooler, can be overclocked, and the AM4 platform offers a significantly better upgrade path.

For general computing the Ryzen 5 2400G can take advantage of multi-threading capabilities and will be considerably faster than the Core i3-8350K on heavy application workloads. Remember the Core i3-8350K is only marginally faster than the Core i3-7350K, so you can safely use the older model as a measuring stick. For rendering and encoding workloads the Ryzen 5 2400G can up to 19% faster.

Moving beyond games, it’s an easy win for the Ryzen 5 2400G. The Ryzen 5 upgrade path on A320, B350, B450, X370, X470, X570 motherboards, all support upcoming Zen processors. So if you buy a nice A320, B350, B450, X370, X470, X570 board now with the Ryzen 5 2400G, you’ll be able to slap a Coffee Lake processor on there later in the year, or whenever you deem it necessary.

Our look today at the Intel Core i3-8350K showed that it is a very capable processor. A 4-core processor sounds like it would be really under-powered these days, but we were pleasantly surprised with a snappy and very capable system. Having just 4 cores had this processor coming in at the back of the pack for heavily threaded workloads, but it performed better than some of its more expensive siblings in lightly threaded workloads where it shined thanks to its high base clocks.

The Intel Core i3-8350K seems to be a decent performing chip that is readily available for $168 at your favorite retailer. The main competition for this processor is the Ryzen 5 2400G 4-Core unlocked desktop processor with Radeon Vega 11 graphics ($169 shipped).

Bottom Line, the Intel Core i3-8350K does not get much media attention since it is entry-level 8 Gen Core Coffee Lake processor, but it is a very capable processor that still delivers a good computing experience for entry-level users.

If extended overclocking and boost frequencies are trivial matters to you, Intel also offers the Core i3-8300 at $138. It’s still outfitted with 4-cores and 4-threads, but clocks in at a slower 3.7GHz and maxes out at only 3.7GHz.

Now the biggest question is can Intel’s Core i3 processor play games? The answer is simply yes as it got a respectable gaming score of 89% in our benchmarks.

That said, to squeeze out all the potential of this surprisingly potent entry-level chip, you’ll want (and need) to splurge on an enthusiast-grade Z270, Z370, Z390 motherboard.

Fresh from a successful roll-out of mainstream Core i3 CPUs, Intel's attack on AMD now extends down into the entry-level with its Core i3-8350K processors, which the company is making available as of Oct 2017.

Which GPU to Pick for Intel Core i3-8350K

Below is a comparison of all graphics cards average FPS performance (using an average of 80+ games at ultra quality settings), combined with the Intel Core i3-8350K.

GPU Price Cost/Frame Avg 1080p Avg 1440p Avg 4K
NVIDIA TITAN RTX 24GB $2,499 $18.4 135.8 FPS
123.6 FPS
80.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB $1,299 $9.8 132.2 FPS
120.4 FPS
78.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB $699 $5.8 120 FPS
108.2 FPS
69.9 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN V 12GB $2,999 $26.1 115 FPS
104.7 FPS
69.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 8GB $699 $6.2 113.4 FPS
101.2 FPS
64.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB $759 $7.1 106.3 FPS
96.5 FPS
62.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB $499 $4.7 105.7 FPS
93.2 FPS
60 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN Xp 12GB $1,199 $11.5 104.2 FPS
93.2 FPS
61.5 FPS
AMD Radeon VII 16GB $699 $6.7 104.2 FPS
92.5 FPS
58.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB $399 $3.9 101.5 FPS
90 FPS
57 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 8GB $499 $5 100.2 FPS
87.1 FPS
56.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB $400 $4.2 94.8 FPS
81 FPS
52 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5700 8GB $349 $3.8 93 FPS
82.6 FPS
52.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB $499 $5.5 90.3 FPS
78.9 FPS
50.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB $350 $3.9 89.2 FPS
74.5 FPS
46.9 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT 6GB $279 $3.2 87.8 FPS
77.2 FPS
48.8 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 295X2 4GB $1,499 $17.7 84.6 FPS
72.9 FPS
49.3 FPS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB $499 $5.9 84.4 FPS
74.9 FPS
47.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB $409 $4.9 83.7 FPS
73.1 FPS
46.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB $999 $12.3 81.4 FPS
70.2 FPS
44.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB $279 $3.5 79.6 FPS
69.6 FPS
44 FPS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB $399 $5 79.1 FPS
70 FPS
44.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB $399 $5.2 77 FPS
66.7 FPS
42 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB $229 $3.1 75 FPS
65.6 FPS
41.6 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB $649 $9.2 70.8 FPS
61.5 FPS
39 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB $220 $3.1 70.6 FPS
61.7 FPS
39.1 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 590 8GB $279 $4.2 67 FPS
56.9 FPS
35.2 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 FURY X 4GB $649 $10.1 64.3 FPS
58.5 FPS
38 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4GB $160 $2.6 61.5 FPS
53.6 FPS
33.9 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB 8GB $199 $3.3 61 FPS
51.7 FPS
31.9 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB $549 $9 60.7 FPS
52.2 FPS
33.3 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB $229 $3.9 59.4 FPS
50.4 FPS
31 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 Nano 4GB $649 $11.1 58.5 FPS
52.3 FPS
33.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN BLACK 6GB $999 $17.6 56.7 FPS
48.4 FPS
32.1 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 FURY 4GB $549 $9.9 55.3 FPS
49.2 FPS
31.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB $254 $4.6 55.1 FPS
47.1 FPS
29.9 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 4GB 4GB $169 $3.1 54.6 FPS
46.4 FPS
28.6 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 390X 8GB $429 $8.1 53.2 FPS
47.2 FPS
30.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB $170 $3.3 52.3 FPS
44.8 FPS
28.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB $329 $6.4 51.4 FPS
43.6 FPS
28.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB $400 $8 50 FPS
44 FPS
28.5 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 390 8GB $329 $6.6 49.7 FPS
43.1 FPS
26 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB $169 $3.4 49 FPS
42.5 FPS
26.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GB $149 $3.2 46.9 FPS
40.6 FPS
25.6 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB $179 $4.1 43.8 FPS
38.1 FPS
24.1 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 380X 4GB $229 $6.2 36.8 FPS
31.7 FPS
20.5 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 285 2GB $249 $7.5 33 FPS
28.6 FPS
17.4 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 380 2GB $199 $6.1 32.8 FPS
28.3 FPS
17.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB $169 $5.2 32.3 FPS
28 FPS
17.7 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 280 3GB $279 $8.7 32 FPS
27.9 FPS
16.6 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB $199 $6.3 31.6 FPS
27.1 FPS
16.9 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 3GB $169 $6.1 27.5 FPS
23.6 FPS
14.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 560 4GB $99 $3.9 25.4 FPS
21.6 FPS
13.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 2GB $159 $6.4 25 FPS
21.1 FPS
13.6 FPS
AMD Radeon R7 370 2GB $149 $6.1 24.5 FPS
19.9 FPS
12.9 FPS
AMD Radeon R7 265 2GB $149 $6.1 24.3 FPS
19.2 FPS
12.5 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 460 4GB $140 $6.2 22.5 FPS
19.1 FPS
12 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB $149 $6.9 21.7 FPS
16.4 FPS
10.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 550 2GB $79 $4.4 17.8 FPS
15.2 FPS
9.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 2GB $79 $4.6 17 FPS
14.4 FPS
8.7 FPS

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Plougher_of_tush December 10, 2019

i3-8350K Build Help!

Hey guys! Just looking for a bit of build advice, I have a z370 board with an i3-8350k and a 600 watt psu, I was looking to spend about £350 (about $390 US) to upgrade from what I have.

I was thinking I should get a 1660, 8gb of ram and an SSD

Any tips on what works or what could do best for me?

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psimwork November 13, 2019

If you don't have an SSD, that should be absolute priority number one before anything else.

Beyond that, you'll need to figure out what you're maxing out before making any decisions. Use MSI afterburner or something else that can chart your CPU, GPU, and RAM usage while you're running whatever you run on a daily basis. Then look at whichever of those is at 100% most often. Whichever it is is the 2nd priority, most definitely after an SSD.

And don't forget that you need to have Windows installed on the SSD.

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Plougher_of_tush January 06, 2020

Is there somewhere I could get windows without that damn pricetag? I feel like I need to start fresh, I have a really old 1tb HDD that definitely needs to go, ill follow up with RAM then a new GPU

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truvaldak August 19, 2019

Help overclocking i3 8350k

Hello! I've recently build a new computer features an i3 8350k on an MSI Gaming M5 Z370 board alongside 8gb of 3200Mhz RAM, and I've very recently been experimenting with overclocking. Many review and posts over the overclocking of this chip report at least 4.7 stable, however I've been having trouble achieving even that. The best clock I can get to while remaining fully stable is 4.5 at 1.32v. anything lower on voltage and it becomes unstable, and raising 4.5 to 4.6 without changing voltage to 1.35 also results in an unstable system - as in I get a bluescreen very quickly with the message "machine check exception." My chip is being cooled by a 240mm water cooler, front mounted, and a single rear 120mm fan for exhaust, and at 4.5ghz my temps cap at about 65-67C, depending on the day. I was curious if anyone had any tips or any idea how I could get this any higher, or if I just got the short straw in the silicon lottery? There's so many options in the bios, I haven't really messed with too much at all - aside from enabling fast boot and xmp, I haven't changed anything.

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I forgot to mention, on my 4.5ghz overclock, I set AVX to -2, as suggested by pretty much everyone overclocking this chip.

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s4nttus August 18, 2019

Hi,

First read this Coffee Lake- overclocking guide, and then in BIOS:

  • Disable XMP and every fast boot option (XMP works often very poorly and can have an impact in your instability with CPU. The same with fast booting)

  • Disable virtualization in your CPU settings

  • Decide if you want your CPU to run on max speed all the time (Fixed CPU ratio + manual voltage mode) or do you want it to drop the voltages and ratios automatically when idling (Dynamic CPU ratio + Adaptive voltage mode)

  • Set your CPU ratio and Ring ratio (uncore ratio, cache ratio). Ring ratio higher than 44 requires you to add more Vcore voltage, at least on my board).

  • Max out your power settings (found in page 4 of the linked guide in the MSI BIOS screenshot, digipower or something was the main category)

  • Set your Load Line Calibration setting to mode 5 or 4 (depending on how much you get a Vcore value drop (vdroop) when you begin a stress test in your monitoring software. Mode 5 in MSI mobos should give you the value you have specified in BIOS for Vcore)

  • Set both System Agent voltage (VCCSA) and IO voltage (VCCIO) to 1.15v.

  • I'm running the same chip on a MSI Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon @ 5.0 GHz with a Vcore 1.385 volts (mine's delidded with liquid metal on a similar cooler than your's) on adaptive voltage mode, LLC mode 5, with a dynamic CPU ratio and AVX offset of -3.

    After you've gotten the CPU to a stable state, you can try enabling XMP for RAM (or do a manual overclock, which is much better imo).

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    truvaldak August 15, 2019

    Been looking through the options to make sure I have everything you listed and that was in the guide, and noticed I don't have any options about power limit. Under DigitALL the options I have are: CPU Loadline Calibration Control, Over voltage protection, under voltage protection, over current protections, switching frequency, and vrm over temperature protection

    Edit: oh wait I found long duration, short duration, and current limit under CPU features. But what is considered Max for those? Or only increase the one option to 170% under DigitALL?

    Edit2: With fastboot and xmp completely disabled, and the following settings for overclock: CPU ratio 47, ratio mode dynamic, AVX offset -2, tried ring ratio at 40, 41, 42, and 43, BCLK at default 100mhz, LLC at Mode 5 (tried mode 4 as well), Over current protection at 160% (warry of pushing it to 170%), Core voltage at 1.365 (tried 1.355 as well), SA and IO voltage both at 1.15, virtualization disabled, I bluescreen on the desktop, sometimes I can get far enough into the browser to download a file (just a minor test) but when downloading it bluescreens.

    I did however manage to get what seems like a stable 4.6 overclock, but it seems ANYTHING higher is completely unstable

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    truvaldak August 13, 2019

    Under load I seem to max out around 1.346-1.349 with a 1.35v setting in bios

    Edit: that's on my new what seems to be stable 4.6 OC

    Edit2: I was wrong, upon finding the REAL vcore readings, it seems to stick around 1.330 with 1.35 set in bios. May have to change the LLC mode? Once I hopefully get through an hour of prime95 I'll try changing it. Then again, it seems stable at 1.330, 20 minutes into prime95 Small FFT, so maybe I should just lower my voltage from 1.35 to 1.33 and make sure LLC keeps it stable or slightly higher lol

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    Core i3-8350K's extra cores impose a few other changes. For instance, L3 cache jumps to 8MB. Compare that to Core i3-7350K's 4MB or the 6MB found on Core i5 (Kaby Lake). The -8350K is also Intel's ...
    The Core i3-8350K is the first quad-core CPU in Intel's i3 arsenal, priced at $180 and clocked at 4 GHz, even when all four cores are active. Overclocking is extremely easy due to the "K" suffix and has the potential to turn this processor into a budget overclocker's dream.
    Typical of recent Intel chips, the Core i3-8350K uses an LGA socket. The Core i3-8350K costs around £160 and is offered unlocked, meaning the cores can be overclocked with a simple flick in the BIOS.
    Coffee Lake returns to the bench for its third review, with benchmarks now focusing on the Intel i3-8350K unlocked 4C/4T CPU. The 8350K essentially usurps the market of the previous i5-7600K, but ...
    For $180 the Core i3-8350K is nearly a rebadged Core i5-7600K: both are 14nm quad-cores operating at ~4GHz, but the 8350K is 25% cheaper. Meanwhile, the Core i3-8100 goes for a more appealing $120.

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    tommy_88 February 29, 2020
    Is an expensive mobo a necessity?
    I currently have a $50 ASRock H310M-HDV motherboard and was wondering if it is worth upgrading that. Would there be any performance advantage, if not what are the advantages?

    Specs:
    ASRock H310M-HDV
    Intel i3-8350k
    TridentZ 2x8 3000 (16gb)
    GTX 1050 ti Strix
    Toshiba 1TB HDD
    HP S600 120GB SSD
    CX450 (2017)
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    extreme_noob July 30, 2018
    Most expensive motherboards either add better VRMs, better IO, better featureset (dual bios, bios flashback).
    Unless you really want to overclock your i3 8350K, stick to your current motherboard and save for a different upgrade. Motherboard upgrades are among the less useful upgrades.
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    FL ST-8 February 27, 2020
    System crashes on dual channel, but not on single channel
    My PC is a year old, self-assembled. Ten days ago, it started crashing without BSOD, and it goes into a POST loops right away for many times before stopping. I manually start the PC, and it POST loops a couple of times before successfully loading Windows 10. I noticed that my case fan lights were reset, so I restarted again to go into BIOS, and it shows that BIOS was reset to default. I ran a memtest86 with the default 4 passes: no errors. After the memory test, I stopped suspecting the RAM. The crashes continued, I tried without my GPU, tried flashing BIOS, ran Intel Processor Diagnostics to test my CPU (passed), checked SSD health with crystaldiskinfo and Intel SSD app, and checked system files. Nobody really looked like the suspect here.

    As the days went by, I noticed that the crashes were coming earlier and earlier.
    The very first time it crashed, I had been using my PC for multiple hours. Recently, it crashes after not more than 10 minutes into YouTube on fHD, and nearly instantly when loading into the lobby of a game(first crash was couple of minutes into a game match). I also began to notice that it doesn't crash while watching Twitch livestreams, but will definitely crash in YouTube, and loading the lobby of a game. At this point I began to suspect the RAM.

    I took out 1 stick of RAM, and I can load 30minute YouTube videos, it also doesn't crash when going into the lobby of the game. I repeated this single-stick test for the other stick, and it also appeared to be stable. I put in both sticks back, in the same slots, and the crashes came back. I switched the 2 sticks from A2 B2 to A1 B1, and the crashes remained.

    To me it appears that in dual channel, my RAM can't seem to handle beyond a certain amount of stored memory and crashes, from how YouTube lasts less than 10 minutes, but Twitch seems fine, and how loading into the game lobby (the game uses up about 1800mb of memory) crashes near instantly
    Single channel does not seem to crash(maybe I'm not stressing the RAM hard enough yet?). I'm not exactly sure what is wrong. I've seen a similar thread suggest that the motherboard maybe the problem, the CPU cooler maybe installed badly, or a faulty CPU. Is there any other components that could be causing these crashes?

    Specs:
    Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite rev. 1.0
    I3-8350k
    Gskill 2x8GB at 2666mhz
    Zotac rtx 2070 mini
    Cooler master 650w psu

    Key points:
    -Crash resets BIOS by itself
    - RAM seems to crash PC after a certain amount of memory is used (only in dual channel and not in single channel)
    -PC in use for one year only with minimal issues
    -RAM no error in memtest86 4 passes



    Really sorry for the super long post, I tried to include everything I observed since I do not have spare pc parts to isolate the problem. Thanks alot for your time!
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    FL ST-8 February 27, 2020
    The distributor tested my ram faulty and sent it for service. I guess the occasional game frame freezes with audio track on loop were early signs of failing ram..
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    SpencerHill January 01, 2020
    Upgrade CPU i3 8350k to i7 9700k or Ryzen?
    Hello everyone,

    I'm running the following spec at the moment:

    CPU: i3 8350k
    Mainboard: MSI Z370-A PRO
    GPU: Saphire AMD Radeon 5700xt
    RAM: Crucial 2x8GB 2133 MHz
    PSU: be quiet pure power 500W (BQ L8-500W)
    Resolution: 1920x1080

    I'm playing COD MW and the performance feels really bad. The game priority on the taskmanager is somehow always on high which makes my discord lag really bad and it's hard to communicate with others. That problem can be fixed when I set the priority to normal but then the game get's these weird frame drops from around 160ish to under 100 and also the game sometimes freezes for 1-3 seconds which makes it unplayable.

    So I was thinking, maybe it's time to upgrade my CPU. What do you guys think? Which parts can I keep, which parts do need a replacement? Should I go with Intel (maybe keep the mainboard?) or should I go with AMD?

    I'm using this Computer only for Gaming on a 144Hz 1080p Monitor (might even go for 1440p while I'm at it)

    Thanks for the help.
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    Barty1884 April 16, 2015
    Are you monitoring CPU/GPU/RAM usage whilst in-game?

    With the i3 being a strict quad core, I would expect that to be the main culprit.

    Given you already have an 1151 board.... I'd probably lean towards sticking with Intel.
    From the ground up, Ryzen represents a better value, but when you're looking at CPU+MB+(ideally) higher clocked RAM, you're going to be spending similar money.

    Example:
    PCPartPicker Part List

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Walmart)
    Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
    Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $373.97
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-01 16:39 EST-0500

    Vs

    PCPartPicker Part List

    CPU: Intel Core i7-9700KF 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Best Buy)
    Total: $349.99
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-01 16:39 EST-0500

    Of course, if you went the Ryzen route, you could sell your current CPU+MB+RAM for.... maybe $150-$200, which would significantly lower the cost of the new platform.

    It looks like an i3-8350K can be sold for ~$100 by itself though, with a bit of luck:
    https://www.ebay.com/sch/164/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=i3-8350k&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

    If it were me, I'd stick with Intel.


    Not 100% convinced on that PSU though, especially if you were to add a 9700K and overclock it...
    A 9700K at 5-5.1GHz can pull >200W, and a 5700XT peak can draw a little north of 250W. With the balance of your components adding a little bit, you'd potentially be running that PSU right at it's upper end more often than not. That PurePower L8 can provide 456W on the 12V rail...
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    DocVoc November 26, 2019
    Wanting to upgrade
    At the moment I am working with a Gigabyte z370 hd3p (rev. 1.0) board with an i3 8350k, 4 sticks of 3200mhz DDR4 G.Skill ram paired with an RTX 2070. I also have a 512GB M.2 sata drive that I use for my Windows 10 Home OS along with a couple 7200RPM drives for storage.
    I just sold my 1070 Ti for 200 so I have a little extra to throw with my next check, Im really feeling like I should upgrade the CPU since I got such a newer card. Maybe a i7 9700K or a i9 9900K, what do you guys think I should be working on upgrading?
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    Darkbreeze June 24, 2014
    Ok, so I can tell you right now you don't want to try running the 9900k on that board. VRMs are just not good enough.

    The 9700k on the other hand should probably be ok so long as you don't plan to do any overclocking.

    That is the CPU that I would most likely recommend as an upgrade. The 9600k is nice, but honestly it doesn't have much better performance than the much older i7-6700k.

    The 8 cores of the 9700k would be a very good upgrade and right now you can pick one up for a lot less than they were going for six months ago.

    PCPartPicker Part List

    CPU: Intel Core i7-9700KF 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $329.99
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-26 01:48 EST-0500
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    tulinho November 16, 2019
    No BIOS after adding RAM
    I added 16gb DDR4 3200mhz (2x8gb kit) to my old 8gb DDR4 2400mhz (2x4gb kit) and now I can’t access the BIOS. I did a bit of research and saw that you can mix and match ram as long as they’re both ddr4 and have the same CAS latency and if they’re different speeds the faster ram would get turned down to match the speed of the slower one. My computer shows a black screen for a few seconds before booting into windows when I power it on, in the settings it shows I have 24gb of ram installed. I was planning on trying to overclock it to like a middle ground so I wouldn’t be stuck at 2400mhz but I can’t do that without accessing the bios. I have an i3 8350k with a msi z370m mortar and both sets of RAM are crucial ballistix with a cas latency of 16. So far I’ve tried unchecking the fast boot option in the power settings and having only one set installed at a time even only one stick.
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    Phaaze88 December 30, 2016
    Clear CMOS:
    Shut 'er down, unplug the power supply, and open the case up.
    Make sure you aren't carrying a charge before you put your hands in there - just touch a metal surface.
    Remove the CMOS battery(that silver, coin shaped object in the motherboard), push and hold the power button on the PC for 15 seconds.
    Reinsert the battery, reassemble everything, and power back on.
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    Butterpants November 04, 2019
    Yet Another Prospective New Builder :))
    Another newbie coming to see what wisdom may be passed on to me in my consideration to undertake building my own PC.
    Some background of what I am looking for in my rig:
    • Mostly used for gaming, and mostly for a single game that isn't super graphics-intensive but stresses individual CPU cores (from everything I have read, does not utilize multiple cores simultaneously)(Yep, World of Warcraft).
    • Trying to do this for as little $$ as possible while still providing a quality machine that will last me for a while.
    • Figure I can get by on my current NVidia GTX670 GPU for a while yet to save some money
    So I started with the CPU as that is pretty widely acknowledged to be the biggest bottle neck with WoW. Prioritized high single clock speed and price and found a great deal on an i3-8350k for $65. Rest of my part selection grew off of that.
    Here's the parts list I've come up with:

    $65 CPU: i3-8350k
    $85 MB: ASRock B365M Phantom Gaming 4 LGA 1151
    $55 RAM: 16gb G.Skill Aegis, single stick, DDR 4 2666
    $67 SSD: Crucial P1 PCIe M.2, 500gb
    $65 PSU: Corsair CX550 80+ Bronze
    $40 CPU Fan: Reeven Steropes 120mm
    $56 Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower (2 fans included)
    $11 Case Fan: Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 120mm PWM
    $8 Thermal Compound: Noctua NT-H1

    $ 510 Grand Total, including tax and shipping

    How's it look? Anything missing?
    Open to suggestions/recommendations. My budget was $500 so I don't have very much wiggle room to up the cost, though if it really makes sense I'll have to consider it.

    Thanks!
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    Gmoney06ss July 03, 2015
    The site that the cpu is listed on seems highly suspect! A $90 rtx 2080, I'd be very weary of buying anything from that site. Also considering the 8350k is about 195 on most all reputable sites, do not risk it. So not a great deal! It's a ripoff!!!

    That being said, the i3 is never really a good choice anyways. Especially at the price of it, when ryzen matches or beats the clock speed and has the added benefit of core count if you ever decide to branch out to other games. It also makes little sense to pair a k sku cpu with a b series mobo, as you wont be taking full advantage of the chip.

    Dual channel ram will always outperform a single channel setup, and is worth the extra $10ish.

    That is a very poor choice for a cpu cooler. Unless you absolutely needed a low profile cooler, but with the case you selected, you do not. Also most coolers will include paste, so put that few bucks towards something else.

    You say you're keeping your current GPU, so I'm assuming you already have a pc? Were you gonna sell it? If not, do you need a case? That's some more cash towards other parts if you don't need a case. Depending on your current hardware, it may be more beneficial to part it out and keep the case.
    Here's a quick build if you really want an i3. Comes with a stock cooler which would most likely outperform the cooler you had chosen.
    PCPartPicker Part List

    CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: ASRock B365M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
    Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
    Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.88 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($69.88 @ OutletPC)
    Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 120 PWM 87 CFM 120 mm Fan ($14.78 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $422.20
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-04 22:22 EST-0500

    Here's a ryzen build, which imo, is a much stronger base. Also includes a cooler, and will be able to oc slightly. Will also outperform the i3 build.

    PCPartPicker Part List

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.58 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.88 @ OutletPC)
    Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
    Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.88 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($69.88 @ OutletPC)
    Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 120 PWM 87 CFM 120 mm Fan ($14.78 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $457.88
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-04 22:28 EST-0500
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    MeIiodas November 03, 2019
    R6S Started stuttering out of the blue
    Hi!
    So i always have been playing Rainbow six siege with a good experience and smooth gameplay, but out of nowhere 2 days ago i started having horrible stuttering which makes it unplayable. I have been troubleshooting for 2 days straight and really can't seem to fix it. As far as i know it only happens on R6S. The day before this problem happened i was playing the game with no problems, and the morning after they started.

    I3 8350k
    Msi GTX 1060
    Crucial 8gb ddr4
    Gigabyte z370 hd3

    Anyone might now why this happens?
    I also noticed r6 tries to take up to 100% of my cpu, ofcourse i have no idea if that was the case before the problems happened. And it seems to be a common thing for r6 since all my friends have it too, but no stuttering involved.
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    Dcopymope August 13, 2018
    What does the resource monitor screen say about your RAM? Preferably, you'll want to check it while gaming, but I don't think it matters much with you only having 8gb's. Its not enough for video games, I don't care what the game is, its bread crumbs. Chances are that what little space you have left is being eaten alive by the 'standby memory' which will be illustrated on the bar in dark blue. There are ways that you can remedy this, but the most direct way is to simply get another 8gbs and call it a day. 16 gbs is the new minimum, ignore whatever ram is listed for these games in the system specifications.
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    alexulmiste October 15, 2019
    Is it worth to upgrade from GTX 1050 TI 4GB to GTX 1060 3GB?
    Hello, my question is about graphics cards. Is it worth upgrading GTX 1050TI 4GB to GTX 1060 3GB? Im really planning to buy that 1060 3gb, but im not sure if its really worth it?

    (specs needed in case:
    cpu: I3-8350K
    gpu: GTX 1050 TI 4GB
    8gb ram)

    Thanks!
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    Newtonius September 25, 2019
    Apparently so, though it has less vram it has a much better Die with more CUDA cores. Though I'd save up a bit more and get a 6GB variant. Up to you.

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-S4zcNHxpI
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    matthewperacio October 11, 2019
    Is there a need to upgrade some stuff?
    So i have a couple hundred dollars to spend and thinking on upgrading my pc, but not a lot, maybe some cheap stuff.

    here are my specs:


    Corsair Vengeance DDR4 2x4GB 2400 ( even though in task manager it says 2133Mhz? )
    Nvidia Geforce 1050ti
    HDD blue 1tb
    kingston SSD 256 GB ( or something like this
    Intel i3-8350k
    MSI Z370M Gaming Pro AC
    seasonic gold focus plus 650

    i dont think im missing anything...?
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    LORDPrometheus October 03, 2014
    Ok well first of all go into the BIOS and enable XMP memory profile to get your RAM up to the right speed. As for upgrades your easiest bet would be moving to an I5 series processor. I would do that before going for a new GPU but that is the next step after a new CPU.

    You can likely handle a majority of games on low to medium settings but moving to a new CPU and GPU could easily get you up to high settigns
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    Isaac_smh October 04, 2019
    Upgrade CPU or GPU First?
    CPU: i3-8350K (Upgrade to i7-8700k)
    GPU: GTX 1050 Ti (Upgrade To 1080 Ti (Found 1 Used For Like $370)

    I want to be able to play games at much higher frame rates.
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    geofelt October 09, 2006
    GTX1080ti is a great card and that seems like a very good price.
    550w is possible if your psu has the requisite 8 and 6 pin pcie connector.
    I would snap it up if you play fast action games.
    Here is my stock answer to that perennial question:

    Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
    Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
    Multiplayer tends to like many threads.

    You need to find out which.
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

    a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
    If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
    If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

    b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
    Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
    This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
    Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

    You should also experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
    You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
    This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
    If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.



    It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
    and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
    -------------------------------------------------------------
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    smecz October 03, 2019
    Windows 10 BSOD
    Made a thread previously, it disappeared after trying to edit it.

    Config:

    Intel Core i3-8350K
    Kingston 1400 120 GB
    ASUS Phoenix GeForce GTX
    HyperX Fury 8gb
    MSI H310M PRO-M2

    Background and problem:


    On my computer with the mentioned specs, I moved over an old internal HDD with Win 7 from another computer I have (I didn't have the SSD at that time). When starting up, keyboard and mouse didn't react so I couldn't login into Windows. So I wanted to make a fresh Windows 10 install from USB, using the internal hard drive. I got into the Windows installer and when it was around 80%, I got BSOD with code Kernel Security Check Failure. After rebooting, i kept on getting this BSOD as soon as i choose to boot from either USB or HDD.

    I purchased a new SSD (the one in the specs) and tried to make a new fresh install, but same problem. When booting from the USB, i had 2 options, 'UEFI partition 'stick name' and just 'stick name'. When booting from UEFI the screen just went black for a few secs, then rebooted. If choosing just the stick, BSOD with the kernel code. Took the SSD and managed to install Windows on my older computer (the old computer has the same installation of windows), moved the SSD back to my newer computer, but the same problem, instant BSOD post-bios. Only difference this time, is that after a few reboots, Windows repair tried to start but was interrupted by BSOD. Post bios the Windows logo is shown for a few sec before BSOD.

    I have tried to move the memory stick to another slot, reset bios, tried with other HDDs but the same problem. Bios works without any issue.

    Any ideas?
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    Shektron May 31, 2017
    Try these things:

    1. Completely format the USB you are using for installation, and put the Windows install on it again, use Microsoft's tool just to be completely sure: https://www.microsoft.com/en-in/software-download/windows10

    2. Put the SSD back into the old computer and completely format it, and do the same for the hard drive(or at least format the C: partition_. Do NOT install Windows on it using the old computer.

    3. Put the SSD ONLY into the new system, plug in the flash drive, and boot from it. See if you are able to install Windows. If done, later add the hard drive to the system.
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    Jordwano September 23, 2019
    New PC Build
    Hello all,

    I am looking to build a new system for gaming at 1080p 144Hz high to max settings, whilst recording my gameplay and editing it afterwards.

    Currently I have:
    Intel i3-8350k
    AsRock z390m-itx/AC
    8GB Kingston HyperX Fury 2133MHz
    GTX 980

    The games I play currently are:
    League of Legends
    Tom Clancy's R6S
    CS:GO
    WoW
    Borderlands 3
    CoD MW (when it's released on Battle.net

    I do also want to play more of the new AAA titles that are/have come out

    I plan on keeping the 980 for the build. But I wanted to get some information as to whether I should look at buying a 3600x seeing as though AMD has made such huge improvements with the Ryzen 3000 CPU's. That being said, I mentioned that I want to record my gameplay and edit it, but I may consider streaming in the next 6 months when the infrastructure for home internet has been improved in my area allowing me to take advantage of higher upload speeds. If I go to AMD I will be buying a set of 16/32GB 3200MHz RAM as I know Ryzen loves it's high frequency RAM

    Thank you all for your time and help
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    R_1 September 08, 2015
    with the proper BIOS you can install an 9900k in that board. one quick flash and your 9th gen ready.
    BIOS version 1803
    CPU support list
    PRIME Z370-A CPU Support | Motherboards | ASUS USA Designed for 8th generation Intel® Core™ processors, the Prime Z370-A delivers maximum performance with customizable style. 5-Way Optimization provides intelligent auto-tuning and dynamic fan calibration, AURA Sync RGB with addressable headers and 3D printing mounts customize your build, while... www.asus.com
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    InfraredRe July 12, 2019
    CPU Reaches 100C at normal load, No OC
    Hi all!
    I recently cleaned my house and was moving a bunch of stuff around including my PC. Once I was done, I reseated the PC to its original spot. I turned it on, and left it there for a few minutes. When I returned, I was greeted with NZXT CAM stating that my CPU was at at 95C. I restarted my PC thinking that this was a mistake. When I checked BIOS, temps stated that they were around 98 to 100C! I immediate shut it down afterwards.. I‘m now afraid to turn on my computer. What is wrong with my PC?
    Notes:
    - Fans on the radiator were spinning
    -PC worked normally before
    -Not overclocked yet
    -PC was idling

    Specs:
    -Core i3-8350K
    -H100i v2
    -Asrock Z370 ac itx
    -EVGA GTX 1060
    -NZXT H200 Case
    -Windows 10 Home
    I‘d appreciate all the help I can get.
    Thanks,
    InfraredRe