AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT Review

High-end Desktop processor released in 2020 with 8 cores and 16 threads. With base clock at 3.9GHz, max speed at 4.7GHz, and a 105W power rating. Ryzen 7 3800XT is based on the Matisse Refresh 7nm family and part of the Ryzen 7 series.
Price 65.2%
Speed 90%
Productivity 85%
Gaming 95%
Category Desktop
Target high-end
Socket Compatibility AM4
Integrated Graphics None
Cooler Included Yes
Overclock Potential 1 %
Year 2020 Model
Price 399 USD
Number of Cores 8 Cores
Number of Threads 16 Threads
Core Frequency 3.9 GHz
Boost Frequency 4.7 GHz
Max Stable Overclock 4.7 GHz
Power Consumption 105 W
Manufacturing Process 7 nm
L3 Cache 32 MB
Maximum Supported Memory 128 GB
Price-Value Score 65.2 %
Speed Score 90 %
Productivity Score 85 %
Gaming Score 95 %
Max 1080p Bottleneck 12.1 %
Max 1440p Bottleneck 6 %
Max 4K Bottleneck 3 %
Overall Score 58/100

The Ryzen 7 3800XT is one of AMD's high-end Desktop processors. It was released in 2020 with 8 cores and 16 threads. With base clock at 3.9GHz, max speed at 4.7GHz, and a 105W power rating. The Ryzen 7 3800XT is based on the Matisse Refresh 7nm family and is part of the Ryzen 7 series.

Ryzen 7 3800XT is also the successor of AMD's last gen Ryzen 7 2700X processor that was based on the Zen+ and 12nm process and was released in 2018.

Now, we're asking ourselves whether or not the AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT finally dethrones the Core i7-9700K as the de facto ruler of the mainstream processors. Ultimately, it depends: the Ryzen 7 3800XT doesn't reach the same single-core performance as Intel, but we're starting to see more games adopt multi-threaded CPUs, so that doesn't matter as much.

AMD Ryzen 7 3rd Generation, and the Zen 2 architecture itself, is notable because it leads 7nm processors to the mainstream for the first time. But, there’s a lot more going on under the hood than just a smaller manufacturing node.

Increased IPC improvements, along with the massive turbo boost of 4.7GHz mean that even in single core performance – long a weak link of AMD’s processors – comes within reaching distance of rival chips.

One thing that the switch to 7nm silicon has allowed for however, is an increase in cache size. AMD is now describing its L3 and L2 cache in a combined spec of 8 x 512 kB and 32. But, because the 7nm CPU cores are contained within their own chiplets, AMD was able to pack much more in – with a whopping 8 x 512 kB and 32. This is a really big deal, as it allows for much faster performance, especially when you’re shooting for high framerates in 1080p games, and will be especially effective in old esports titles like Counter Strike: Global Offensive.

Finally, the shrink down to 7nm allows for much better energy efficiency. Because of the Zen 2 architecture, AMD Ryzen 7 3 Generation processors like the Ryzen 7 3800XT and Ryzen 7 3700X should be up to 58% more efficient than comparable Intel processors. This isn’t the most noteworthy feature here, but, hey, it should translate to lower electricity bills, and in today’s economy every little bit helps, right?

Over the last couple years, AMD has been reaching for dominance in the desktop CPU world, and with the AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT, it's finally there.

AMD's Zen 2 series has landed, upping the ante with Intel in its high-stakes game for desktop PC market dominance with a well-rounded lineup of new chips that push mainstream platforms to higher core counts and more raw compute than we've ever seen. As a result, Intel's commanding presence in the enthusiast space is threatened in a way we haven't seen in over a decade.

That something is the Ryzen 7 3800XT. AMD cranks the TDP dial up to 105W on this 8-core 16-thread chip, making it the high-performance counterpart to the 65W Ryzen 7 3700X, which is basically the same 7nm chip built with the Zen 2 microarchitecture, but with a lower TDP rating. That chip came away from our first look at the Zen 2 series with an Editor's Choice award, going toe-to-toe with Intel's Core i7-9700K, so it's fair to say we have high hopes for the higher-performance model. AMD still hasn't sampled the chip to the press, so we bought one at retail to put it under the microscope.

The Ryzen 7 3800XT takes the basic ingredients of the Zen 2 microarchitecture, which brings an average of 15% more instructions per cycle (IPC) throughput, and 7nm process and melds them into a high-performance chip that is impressive across our test suite, especially when we factor in the competitive pricing, backward compatibility with most AM4 socket motherboards, unlocked overclocking features, and bundled cooler.

But we've also found that, after simple push-button overclocking, the Ryzen 7 3700X offers similar performance to the Ryzen 7 3800XT, even when it is also overclocked. But for $70 less. The Ryzen 7 3800XT is an impressive chip and offers a better mixture of performance than Intel's Core i7-9700, no doubt, but in this case, value seekers might opt for its less expensive sibling.

As the higher-priced version of the Ryzen 7 3700X, the Ryzen 7 3800XT has higher base and Boost frequencies of 3.9 and 4.7 GHz, respectively. That's an increase in base frequency and a bump to boost clocks, but the real advantage should lay in the higher Package Power Tracking (PPT) envelope, which is a measurement of the maximum amount of power delivered to the socket. The Ryzen 7 3700X's PPT tops out at 65W, while the motherboard can pump up to 142W to the Ryzen 7 3800XT at peak performance. That opens up much more aggressive boost behavior, on both single and multiple cores, that could widen the performance gap beyond what we see on the spec sheet.

As we've seen, gaming remains an advantage for Intel, so if squeezing out every last frame is all you care about, Intel's processors are a good choice. Much of that performance advantage will be less noticeable when gaming at higher resolutions, or if you pair the processors with a lesser graphics card.

But, like most humans, if you do things other than gaming, the Ryzen 7 3800XT offers a better mixture of performance in single- and multi-threaded applications. The Ryzen 7 3800XT offers twice the threads of the price-comparable Core i7-9700K, and it wields them to great effect in threaded workloads. As such, rendering and encoding remain a strong suit of the Ryzen 7 chips, and AMD's improvements to AVX throughput have yielded impressive results.

Value seekers who aren't afraid to press the Precision Boost Overdrive button and have sufficient cooling should look to the Ryzen 7 3700X for roughly equivalent performance to the Ryzen 7 3800XT, particularly if gaming factors heavily into the buying decision. That could save you money, reinforcing our decision to give the Ryzen 7 3700X an Editor's Choice award.

AMD Ryzen 7 3 Generation is finally here, and the AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT might just be the poster child for what this generation of processors has in store for consumers. Sure, it might have stuck with the 8-core, 16-thread setup, which it inherited from its predecessor, the Ryzen 7 2700X. However, with the new 7nm manufacturing process, it delivers a far better performance at lower power consumption.

It gets more interesting, however, when you compare the Ryzen 7 3800XT to its main competitor. The Intel Core i7-9700K is available for $374, an 8-core processor with no hyperthreading, which means that the Ryzen 7 3800XT offers twice the processing threads at a lower price tag. Intel is still king when it comes to single-core performance, but when it comes to multi-core ones, the AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT is the absolute beast.

The AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT, like the rest of AMD's Matisse Refresh processors, is built on a 7nm manufacturing node – the smallest in a commercially available CPU. What this means for most people is lower power consumption and much improved performance at the same time.

This decision to 7nm has brought a beefy 15% boost to IPC (instructions per clock) performance. Effectively, compared to a Ryzen 7 2-Generation processor at the same clock speed, you will get a straight 15% increase in performance. That’s not big enough to be evident in day-to-day workloads, but it does still mean something.

What this all means is that the AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT is an absolute beast when it comes to multi-threaded workloads, especially at this price point. If you're counting on doing some video editing or compiling one hell of an Excel spreadsheet, you're going to see firsthand a performance boost with the Ryzen 7 3800XT.

Bear in mind, however, that if you already have something like the Ryzen 7 2700X, this generation doesn't offer the biggest boost in performance. You might want to wait another year or so before dropping a few hundred bucks, or even opt to splurge on a higher-end but pricier chip.

AMD has been having some trouble as of late which has made it even harder to compete with the incoming wave of Core i7 processors. That has forced the chip maker to be a little more creative and make do with their current product lines. Today we have the AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT on hand, which in itself isn’t anything new. It’s basically a refreshed Ryzen 7 2700X with a clock speed boost. We say basically because it’s not a straight refresh however, there’s another change.

If you're mostly playing games on your PC, you will be happy buying either processor. Both proved to be solid options and are evenly matched with a slight advantage to the Intel chip if you don't tune up the Core i7 processor. The base performance we showed for the Ryzen 7 3800XT can be achieved with $90 memory, while the Core i7-9700K will require $110 - $120 memory in order to enable the frame rates shown here. It’s not a big cost difference and right now with anything less than an RTX 2070 or Vega 64 you’ll more than likely become GPU limited.

Today we’ll be taking a closer look at the AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT 8-core desktop processor that was released in Jul 2020. AMD offers the Ryzen 7 3800XT without integrated graphics. It runs $399 shipped and is ideal for those that plan on using it a system with a dedicated graphics card.

One of the nice things about the AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT processors is that the retail boxed models come with a CPU cooler. So, you can pick something like the AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT up for $399 and don’t need to spend any extra money on CPU cooling.

The AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT retail boxed processor comes with the traditional ‘pancake’ CPU cooler. Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done on this processor which is rated at 105W TDP. You do not need to have an aftermarket cooling solution unless you want to.

The AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT seems to be a decent performing chip that is readily available for $399 at your favorite retailer. The main competition for this processor is the Core i7-9700K 8-Core unlocked desktop processor with Intel UHD Graphics 630 graphics ($374 shipped).

If extended overclocking and boost frequencies are trivial matters to you, AMD also offers the Ryzen 7 3700X at $274. It’s still outfitted with 8-cores and 16-threads, but clocks in at a slower 3.6GHz and maxes out at only 4.4GHz.

Now the biggest question is can AMD’s Ryzen 7 processor play games? The answer is simply yes as it got a respectable gaming score of 95% in our benchmarks.

Regardless of those external factors, the Ryzen 7 3800XT proves it has the chops to be your main gaming system and a just as effective media creation platform – two things that are becoming intrinsically connected in this age of live-streaming, eSports and uploading gameplay videos.

The Ryzen 7 3800XT clocks up to 4.7Ghz just as it promises on the box, and with AMD’s software you can take one of the cores all the way up to 4.8GHz. However, don’t expect to get much beyond that without seriously upgrading your cooling solution and manually tweaking voltages behind the operating system level.

That said, to squeeze out all the potential of this surprisingly potent high-end chip, you’ll want (and need) to splurge on an enthusiast-grade X370, X470, X570 motherboard.

Fresh from a successful roll-out of mainstream Ryzen 7 CPUs, AMD's attack on Intel now extends down into the high-end with its Ryzen 7 3800XT processors, which the company is making available as of Jul 2020.

Although the 105W-rated cooler doesn't feature a copper base or the LEDs found on AMD's higher-end thermal solutions, it does handle Ryzen 7's heat output deftly enough to facilitate XFR-triggered frequencies. This gives you an extra 200 MHz. We were even able to overclock the Ryzen 7 3800XT to 4.9 GHz within a reasonable temperature range. The fan also blows down onto the motherboard, which provide additional cooling around the socket. If you need more bling, AMD recently announced that it now offers the LED-equipped cooler separately.

Like all other Matisse Refresh chips, the Ryzen 7-series CPUs drop into any Socket AM4 motherboard. But most will find a home on boards equipped with the A320 chipset, which has provisions for overclocking and offers plenty of connectivity options. Unlike Intel, AMD plans to utilize its current socket until 2020, so upgrading to future models shouldn't require a new motherboard.

Which GPU to Pick for AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT

Below is a comparison of all graphics cards average FPS performance (using an average of 80+ games at ultra quality settings), combined with the AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT.

Graphics Card Price Cost Per Frame Avg 1080p Avg 1440p Avg 4K
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24GB $ 1,499 $ 5.5 270.9 FPS
213.8 FPS
131.6 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB $ 699 $ 3 236.1 FPS
186.3 FPS
114.7 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB $ 499 $ 2.8 180.6 FPS
142.6 FPS
87.7 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN RTX 24GB $ 2,499 $ 15.1 165.8 FPS
135.2 FPS
83.7 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB $ 1,299 $ 8 161.4 FPS
131.6 FPS
81.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB $ 699 $ 4.8 146.5 FPS
118.2 FPS
72.9 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN V 12GB $ 2,999 $ 21.4 140.4 FPS
114.5 FPS
72.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 8GB $ 699 $ 5 138.5 FPS
110.6 FPS
67.6 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB $ 759 $ 5.8 129.8 FPS
105.5 FPS
65 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB $ 499 $ 3.9 129 FPS
101.8 FPS
62.6 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN Xp 12GB $ 1,199 $ 9.4 127.3 FPS
101.8 FPS
64.1 FPS
AMD Radeon VII 16GB $ 699 $ 5.5 127.3 FPS
101.1 FPS
61.2 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB $ 399 $ 3.2 123.9 FPS
98.4 FPS
59.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 8GB $ 499 $ 4.1 122.3 FPS
95.1 FPS
59.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB $ 400 $ 3.5 115.7 FPS
88.6 FPS
54.2 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5700 8GB $ 349 $ 3.1 113.6 FPS
90.2 FPS
54.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB $ 499 $ 4.5 110.3 FPS
86.3 FPS
52.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB $ 350 $ 3.2 108.9 FPS
81.5 FPS
48.9 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT 6GB $ 279 $ 2.6 107.1 FPS
84.4 FPS
50.9 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 295X2 4GB $ 1,499 $ 14.5 103.3 FPS
79.7 FPS
51.4 FPS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB $ 499 $ 4.8 103 FPS
81.9 FPS
49.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB $ 409 $ 4 102.2 FPS
79.9 FPS
48.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB $ 999 $ 10.1 99.3 FPS
76.8 FPS
46.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB $ 279 $ 2.9 97.2 FPS
76 FPS
45.9 FPS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB $ 399 $ 4.1 96.6 FPS
76.6 FPS
46.2 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB $ 399 $ 4.2 94.1 FPS
72.9 FPS
43.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB $ 229 $ 2.5 91.6 FPS
71.8 FPS
43.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB $ 649 $ 7.5 86.4 FPS
67.3 FPS
40.6 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB $ 220 $ 2.6 86.2 FPS
67.5 FPS
40.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 590 8GB $ 279 $ 3.4 81.8 FPS
62.1 FPS
36.8 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 FURY X 4GB $ 649 $ 8.3 78.5 FPS
63.9 FPS
39.7 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4GB $ 160 $ 2.1 75.1 FPS
58.6 FPS
35.4 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB 8GB $ 199 $ 2.7 74.4 FPS
56.5 FPS
33.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB $ 549 $ 7.4 74.1 FPS
57 FPS
34.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB $ 229 $ 3.2 72.6 FPS
55 FPS
32.3 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 Nano 4GB $ 649 $ 9.1 71.4 FPS
57.1 FPS
35.2 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN BLACK 6GB $ 999 $ 14.4 69.2 FPS
52.8 FPS
33.5 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 FURY 4GB $ 549 $ 8.1 67.5 FPS
53.8 FPS
32.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB $ 254 $ 3.8 67.3 FPS
51.5 FPS
31.1 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 4GB 4GB $ 169 $ 2.5 66.7 FPS
50.8 FPS
29.9 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 390X 8GB $ 429 $ 6.6 64.9 FPS
51.6 FPS
31.6 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB $ 170 $ 2.7 63.9 FPS
49 FPS
29.6 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB $ 329 $ 5.2 62.8 FPS
47.6 FPS
30 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB $ 400 $ 6.6 61 FPS
48 FPS
29.7 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 390 8GB $ 329 $ 5.4 60.7 FPS
47.1 FPS
27.2 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB $ 169 $ 2.8 59.9 FPS
46.5 FPS
27.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GB $ 149 $ 2.6 57.2 FPS
44.4 FPS
26.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB $ 179 $ 3.4 53.4 FPS
41.7 FPS
25.1 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 380X 4GB $ 229 $ 5.1 44.9 FPS
34.7 FPS
21.3 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 285 2GB $ 249 $ 6.2 40.3 FPS
31.2 FPS
18.1 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 380 2GB $ 199 $ 5 40 FPS
30.9 FPS
18.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB $ 169 $ 4.3 39.5 FPS
30.6 FPS
18.4 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 280 3GB $ 279 $ 7.1 39.1 FPS
30.5 FPS
17.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB $ 199 $ 5.2 38.6 FPS
29.7 FPS
17.7 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 3GB $ 169 $ 5 33.6 FPS
25.8 FPS
15.3 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 560 4GB $ 99 $ 3.2 31.1 FPS
23.6 FPS
14 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 2GB $ 159 $ 5.2 30.5 FPS
23.1 FPS
14.2 FPS
AMD Radeon R7 370 2GB $ 149 $ 5 29.9 FPS
21.7 FPS
13.5 FPS
AMD Radeon R7 265 2GB $ 149 $ 5 29.7 FPS
21 FPS
13 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 460 4GB $ 140 $ 5.1 27.4 FPS
20.9 FPS
12.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB $ 149 $ 5.6 26.5 FPS
18 FPS
11.2 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 550 2GB $ 79 $ 3.6 21.7 FPS
16.6 FPS
9.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 2GB $ 79 $ 3.8 20.7 FPS
15.8 FPS
9.1 FPS

Related Discussions and Issues

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bobtheman11 July 27, 2020

help with cpu justification

I am currently running an intel i5 2500k. I have been planning on building a new desktop rig for some time and am at the point where I cant really wait much longer.

I am eyeing the amd ryzen 3800x OR the ryzen 3800xt. The XT variant is around 100 USD more - and the specs, from what i'm reading, doesn't justify the price increase. I wanted to ask three questions:


  • is there anything I am missing to justify that 100 USD difference for the xt variant ?

  • the upgrade from the i5 2500k to the 3800x/xt should be sizable. How much improvement should I see? Huge difference I'm assuming.

  • Should I try to hold out for the next gen, 4k ryzen zen3 chips?

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    MilitantLibatard July 27, 2020

    XT is simply replacing the new X as the standard chip since the quality of the process has improved, so theoretically it's because of a discount only. The XT isn't meant to be anything special or different it's simply the same chip but better quality and thus small clock increases(I put this here before someone "corrects me" you know it's the same fking chip)

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    MilitantLibatard July 27, 2020

    don't hold out for a new chip lmfao, and what do you mean

    How much improvement should I see? Huge difference I'm assuming.

    you haven't told us what the computer is even for, performance increase in benchmarks and rendering yeah, in gaming? maybe if you have a 2080 ti.

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    bobtheman11 July 27, 2020

    Thank you for your reply.

    I work in IS - I do next to no gaming, and my GPU is basically non existent. I do have another rig with 4 1080ti's but its not used for gaming. This machine i'll use it for coding, virtual machines, some graphics design and photo editing, etc.

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    scr3wballl July 27, 2020

    Right now since the XT are so new, the prices are inflated, so it doesn't make it worth spending the extra for it.

    Going to Ryzen from almost any intel is a big speed boost. I went from i5-3350P to Ryzen 2600 and the difference was amazing.

    No use waiting since the first release of the 4xxx ships will also be inflated prices for the first 6 months or so and not worth the price premium.

    J
    Jester3339 July 27, 2020

    Please help me with my first PC build since 1995

    Hello PC builders,

    My friend has helped me to create a build. This is the first time I’m building a PC since 1995 or so. May I ask for your advice, please.

    I want to be able to run VR games on my new Valve Index (e.g. Halflife Alyx) on high performance.

    My friend is confident about the bolded items.

    In particular, we would like advice on the:

    • Memory

    • Graphics card

    Thank you so much for your help!

    CPU: AMD RYZEN 3800XT (8-core, 3.9GHz) (confident)

    https://www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-7-3800xt-ryzen-7-3rd-gen/p/N82E16819113652

    CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-U14S (169mm CPU cooler height available in case)

    https://www.newegg.ca/noctua-nh-u14s/p/N82E16835608041

    MOTHERBOARD: ASRock B550 PRO4 AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard (confident)

    https://www.newegg.ca/asrock-b550-pro4/p/N82E16813157941

    MEMORY:

    GRAPHICS CARD:

    CASE: FRACTAL DESIGN DEFINE 7 COMPACT (confident)

    https://www.newegg.ca/black-fractal-design-define-7-compact-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352126

    NVME DRIVE 1: SAMSUNG 970 PRO, 500GB (PREPARED) (confident)

    NVME DRIVE 2: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS, 2TB (confident)

    https://www.newegg.ca/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

    POWER SUPPLY: SEASONIC, PX-500 (fanless)

    https://www.newegg.ca/seasonic-prime-fanless-px-500-500w/p/N82E16817151234

    WIFI ADAPTER: INTEL AX200 WIFI CARD

    https://www.newegg.ca/intel-wi-fi-6-ax200/p/N82E16833106102

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    pntless July 27, 2020

    The 3800xt shouldn't exist. It's a higher binned 3800x, which is a higher binned and clocked 3700x, but it costs as much as the 3900x (at least in the US).

    For memory, the faster the better is especially true with Ryzen. A 3600 cl16 kit would serve you well, which kit depends on size and appearance (if you care) that you are after. Get dual sticks for dual channel, don't try to just get a single big stick.

    As for GPU, budget?

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    V0rt0s July 27, 2020

    Please use pc part picker, it makes our job way way easier.

    Don’t buy the 3800xt. Other comments explain why. Just buy a 3700x and save the money.

    That mobo is a ridiculous price for a b550 board. B550 boards are almost universally trumped by x570 boards if you’re worried about features and VRM’s. Unless that board has a feature you particularly want get an Asus tuf x570 mobo. It’s a better board with better VRM’s that is dead reliable for less money. It comes with WiFi too.

    Don’t buy Samsung ssd’s for gaming. They’re expensive for speed that doesn’t help in games whatsoever. Buy a sabrient rocket gen3. Less money for the exact same performance. https://youtu.be/4DKLA7w9eeA

    That case is a horrible value. It’s got bad airflow and no discernible features besides looking bland. Check this video: https://youtu.be/XsMNu0gWlZw Buy one of them you like so your components get the air they need. I have the h500 and love it.

    Why are you buying a platinum psu? There is practically 0 reason to do so for anyone besides getting a pretty little sticker. Buy a 650w gold rated psu and call it a day. You’ll spend less )probably about half) and get more with no downsides besides having a 10year warranty instead of a 12.

    Get a 16gb 3600mhz cl16 ram kit. Fast ram helps ryzen perform well due to its reliance on something called the infinity fabric for its chiplets to communicate between themselves.

    As for GPU that is probably the most important part of a build. It will entirely depend on your budget, goals, and when you plan to buy. Next gen GPU’s are coming in September so almost no matter what you should wait until then to build. With wanting to do vr you definitely want to wait.

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    pntless July 27, 2020

    I disagree, in part, on the case. I just ordered it yesterday.

    I do agree that it is priced a bit high and not a particularly good value. I would personally prefer to see it closer to $80 with no included fans since, as you said, it is quite airflow restricted and stock fans aren't going to do the job. I am doing dual NF-A14's in the front, an NF-S12A in the back and possibly another NF-S12A in the bottom or I may just move the included exhaust fan down there as an intake. Unfortunately, this nearly doubles the cost making it an even worse value. I wish it had a mesh front panel, but my desire for it's killer feature outweighs that and I'm willing to work around it.

    Why all that money in fans to work around a flawed design then? A couple of reasons... Although for function I would prefer a mesh panel up front I do prefer this aesthetically. Second, the front I/O is what I consider it's killer feature. For my use case, it is unbeatable and rarely matched. I don't know of any other cases in the size category with 2+2+1 front USB.

    Otherwise, this is solid advice, OP, including the case. You really need to have specific case desires and requirements to justify the 7 Compact.

    Edit: Motherboard in the OP doesn't have a front Type C header...making the case an even harder sell.

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    Jester3339 July 29, 2020

    Thank you for all of the advice so far!


    We found a really good price on the Ryzen CPU.

    My budget for the GPU is medium-high.

    We'd prefer to stick with AMD instead of NVIDIA for this build.


    Please continue to advise on memory and graphics card.

    Thanks!

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    Awesome_est August 08, 2020

    Help me Optimize my upcoming system (Possibly RTX3000)

    Hello everyone,

    In lieu of the new GPU lineup coming soon, aswell as enough money to burn, I am considering doing a new PC to comfortably transition into the new gen of gaming.

    My current setup:

    Case: Coolermaster HAF ??? Mobo: MSI B450 gaming pro carbon AC CPU: Ryzen 3600 No SSD PSU: Some shady 750w psu that has not blown up in 6 years RAM: Vengeance LPX ddr4 16gb GPU: GTX 1660ti

    And here is what build i was considering (* means I’m unsure of this part)

    Case: Corsair Crystal 280x (Micro-Atx) Mobo: B550M Aorus Pro (seems like the best M-Atx B550) CPU: Ryzen 3800XT* (Overkill?) Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a 33.8 CFM (best M-Atx cooler?) SSD: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1TB* (overpriced, but super fast) PSU: Corsair RM 80+ Gold, 650w* (750w if RTX are too power hungry. RAM: Corsair/G.Skill 32GB* (Will need 32gb down the line) GPU: Using my old 1660ti, until RTX 3000 series comes out* (>300mm length)

    Case, Mobo are locked in at this point, but i am curious of what you think of the other components, if i can safely downgrade without losing performances. Obviously no way to know what the 3000 series will look like, in case it doesn’t work out, i would go instead for a 2080S.

    Thank you.

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    supermandreamsxx July 21, 2020

    First PC building! Need help!

    Hey guys! New to the sub! I'm attempting to build a new pc and it's my first time, as I usually game on consoles. I would just like some guidance and tips? I will list the things I'm getting hopefully, and please let me know if they work together or if I'm missing something! Thank you!

    CPU: AMD Rayzen 7 3800xt CPU COOLER: Corsair Hydro H100i RBG liquid GPU: Galax GeForce GTX 1660 Super ex RAM: Corsair Vengeance RBG pro 16GB 3200MHZ DDR4 Motherboard: ASUS ROG strix b550-F- gaming Hard drive: Seagate barracuda 2TB SSD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 500GB

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    benjamen50 July 21, 2020

    Don't see a power supply listed you'll need one. I'd recommend a 650W 80+ Gold. Something like a EVGA Supernova G3 / Corsair RM / Seasonic Focus gold / Corsair HX.

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    Stigona July 21, 2020

    Really overpowered CPU for that build. Save the extra, buy a 5 3600 and dump the cooler, upgrade to a 2070 or a 2070 super GPU instead.

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    supermandreamsxx July 21, 2020

    Thanks I was looking at a 2070 I was just cutting budget, don't think I would need the cooler though?

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    FCFirework July 21, 2020

    I would scrap the aio cooler, get a b450 mobo and a lower capacity hdd and use that money for a better gpu. Other than that, what psu are you getting?

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    marc-sht July 27, 2020

    Help me choose between amd and intel please i beg you

    So i calculted that building a new pc with a core i7-10700k and Ryzen 7 3800XT is exactly the same price (50€ difference) the only things that changes are : higher frequencies on intel (up to 5.1Ghz), and Amd being PCIe 4.0 compatible. Im gonna use this pc to play AAA games obviously, but it will also be used to work, I also often host servers for my friends. Please explain why you think one would be better than the other. I really can't choose between the two im stuck (btw i really need a pc now because old one died).

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    Stysner July 27, 2020

    AMD. 100% AMD for everything.

    Not only are modern games more than capable of using multiple cores, Intel has been screwing up so much, they don't deserve your money anyway. Coming from a current Intel user.

    And when you use it for work and server stuff, AMD would be miles better too.

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    AiMeRajfura July 28, 2020

    Help me choose

    Need help choosing

    Hi, i need help choosing as a have my next birthday coming up and have saved up alot so i need help to choose between Im a guy who goes on a lot of vacations and goes to a lot of lan tourneys and party’s and just jn general travels alot. But i also do video editing (pretty light) ,and very heavy gaming

    My current specs Case - h510 Cpu - 3600 Gpu - 2060 super Mobo - crappy b450 itx mobo Cooler - pretty good cm aio.

    Choice one, Getting the nr200p and a new b550 aorus pro ax itx motherboard and the 3800xt.

    Choice two, getting a normal atx z390 mobo (probably asus) and getting the 9700k and upgrading my gpu to the 2070 super

    Thank you For reading and possibly helping me! Have a great day!

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    Regev July 27, 2020
    Which of these is the best CPU+cooler+motherboard combo?
    Hey guys!

    So, I got a 1TB NVMe, a 700W Platinum+ SFX-L, and a kit of 32GB 3200. Thanks to your advice, I was gonna get the i9-9900 (at 50% off from a family member working for Intel), but when I went to find an ITX motherboard the only one I found in my country that can sustain an i9 is the Phantom, which costs $258. I also read that I'd need to buy a cooler cause the Intel 9th gen stock one sucks, so it's another $59 for the L12S.

    I'm reconsidering options before ordering. Here are possible combinations I found (all with mITX motherboards). I do not need a video card at all, it's purely for productivity uses (lots of text, very heavy browser use, web developing, and some programming). When necessary, I factored in the cheapest 1030 that I found. Also, I used the stock cooler (hope it's enough) on all builds (except the 9900). Listed in order of price:

  • Ryzen 5 3400G = $271 (B350) or $301 (B450)
  • i3 10100 = $300 (B460) or $336 (Z490)
  • i5 10400 = $390 (B460) or $426 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700 = $396 (B350) or $427 (B450) or $497 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600 = $402 (B350) or $419 (B450) or $493 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10500 = $412 (B460) or $448 (Z490)
  • i5 10600 = $427 (B460) or $463 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700X = $430 (B350) or $461 (B450) or $531 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600X = $432 (B350) or $463 (B450) or $533 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10600K = $482 (B460) or $518 ( Z490)
  • Ryzen 5 3600XT = $490 (B350) or $521 (B450) or $591 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 7 3700X = $529 (B350) or $560 (B450) or $630 (X470/B550)
  • i7 10700 = $568 (B460) or $604 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 3800X = $574 (B350) or $605 (B450, $675 (X470/B550)
  • i9 9900 = $590 (50% off on CPU, pricey Z390 + Noctua L12S)
  • i7 10700K = $628 (B460) or $664 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 3800XT = $653 (B350) or $684 (B450) or $754 (X470/B550)
  • Which configuration gives the best bang for the buck for the uses I listed (without suffering any productivity setback)? Still the i9?

    Thanks <3
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    Karadjgne December 26, 2012
    Things take time. It takes a cpu a certain amount of time to render anything, game frame, web page etc. A stronger cpu can do things in less time as it has more available resources to work with. A 3700x might render a page in 1 second, a 3400G might take 2 seconds. To a cpu that's a huge improvement, massive really. To you, you blinked and it was over with. Can't really say just exactly how much of a difference there is on such a small scale. But when it comes to large scale, that's a different story. Play gta5 on a 3400G and 3700x, there's a fps difference, then add in streaming and the 4 cores of the 3400G just got swamped and fps drops like a bad habit. The 8/16 of the 3700x doesn't even blink.

    Mmorpgs online are even worse. All that AI can be seriously detrimental to fps. I play swtor and in single player ultra have no issues on an i7-3770K with getting 90fps+. 8man op and I'm into 60-90fps range, 16man op and I'm averaging 30fps with all cpu details disabled/min and a 24man world boss fight is miserable at 5-10fps and everything disabled. Just way too much, too intensive, too cpu challenging for even a 8thread i7 at 4.6GHz to handle. 3400G will be far worse as it has no Lcache and not nearly the same resources, even if it does have better IPC. Fastest runner in the world is useless if he has a ball and chain around 1 ankle. Make him stronger, make the chain longer and he'll just lick it up and run.

    B450m-H is a value motherboard. More tailored towards the 3600 or lesser cpus. It'll handle a 3700x just fine under normal circumstances, but Ryzens are dynamic cpus, they boost according to voltages, temps, loads. With no heatsink the VRM's will run hotter and will limit the boosting ability of the cpu. They won't overheat, but instead of seeing nice high boosts, you'll be relegated to more minimal boosts. The cpu will protect itself and the motherboard from excessive power draws.