AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Review

High-end Desktop processor released in 2019 with 8 cores and 16 threads. With base clock at 3.9GHz, max speed at 4.5GHz, and a 105W power rating. Ryzen 7 3800X is based on the Matisse 7nm family and part of the Ryzen 7 series.
Price 78.3%
Speed 87%
Productivity 84%
Gaming 95%
Category Desktop
Target high-end
Socket Compatibility AM4
Integrated Graphics None
Cooler Included Yes
Overclock Potential 2 %
Year 2019 Model
Price 328 USD
Number of Cores 8 Cores
Number of Threads 16 Threads
Core Frequency 3.9 GHz
Boost Frequency 4.5 GHz
Max Stable Overclock 4.6 GHz
Power Consumption 105 W
Manufacturing Process 7 nm
L3 Cache 32 MB
Maximum Supported Memory 128 GB
Price-Value Score 78.3 %
Speed Score 87 %
Productivity Score 84 %
Gaming Score 95 %
Max 1080p Bottleneck 13.3 %
Max 1440p Bottleneck 6.7 %
Max 4K Bottleneck 3.3 %
Overall Score 57/100

The Ryzen 7 3800X is one of AMD's high-end Desktop processors. It was released in 2019 with 8 cores and 16 threads. With base clock at 3.9GHz, max speed at 4.5GHz, and a 105W power rating. The Ryzen 7 3800X is based on the Matisse 7nm family and is part of the Ryzen 7 series.

Ryzen 7 3800X is also the successor of AMD's last gen Ryzen 7 2700X processor that was based on the Zen+ and 12nm process and was released in 2018.

Now, we're asking ourselves whether or not the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X finally dethrones the Core i7-9700K as the de facto ruler of the mainstream processors. Ultimately, it depends: the Ryzen 7 3800X doesn't reach the same single-core performance as Intel, but we're starting to see more games adopt multi-threaded CPUs, so that doesn't matter as much.

AMD Ryzen 7 3rd Generation, and the Zen 2 architecture itself, is notable because it leads 7nm processors to the mainstream for the first time. But, there’s a lot more going on under the hood than just a smaller manufacturing node.

Increased IPC improvements, along with the massive turbo boost of 4.5GHz mean that even in single core performance – long a weak link of AMD’s processors – comes within reaching distance of rival chips.

One thing that the switch to 7nm silicon has allowed for however, is an increase in cache size. AMD is now describing its L3 and L2 cache in a combined spec of 8 x 512 kB and 32. But, because the 7nm CPU cores are contained within their own chiplets, AMD was able to pack much more in – with a whopping 8 x 512 kB and 32. This is a really big deal, as it allows for much faster performance, especially when you’re shooting for high framerates in 1080p games, and will be especially effective in old esports titles like Counter Strike: Global Offensive.

Finally, the shrink down to 7nm allows for much better energy efficiency. Because of the Zen 2 architecture, AMD Ryzen 7 3 Generation processors like the Ryzen 7 3800X and Ryzen 7 3700X should be up to 58% more efficient than comparable Intel processors. This isn’t the most noteworthy feature here, but, hey, it should translate to lower electricity bills, and in today’s economy every little bit helps, right?

Over the last couple years, AMD has been reaching for dominance in the desktop CPU world, and with the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, it's finally there.

AMD's Zen 2 series has landed, upping the ante with Intel in its high-stakes game for desktop PC market dominance with a well-rounded lineup of new chips that push mainstream platforms to higher core counts and more raw compute than we've ever seen. As a result, Intel's commanding presence in the enthusiast space is threatened in a way we haven't seen in over a decade.

That something is the Ryzen 7 3800X. AMD cranks the TDP dial up to 105W on this 8-core 16-thread chip, making it the high-performance counterpart to the 65W Ryzen 7 3700X, which is basically the same 7nm chip built with the Zen 2 microarchitecture, but with a lower TDP rating. That chip came away from our first look at the Zen 2 series with an Editor's Choice award, going toe-to-toe with Intel's Core i7-9700K, so it's fair to say we have high hopes for the higher-performance model. AMD still hasn't sampled the chip to the press, so we bought one at retail to put it under the microscope.

The Ryzen 7 3800X takes the basic ingredients of the Zen 2 microarchitecture, which brings an average of 15% more instructions per cycle (IPC) throughput, and 7nm process and melds them into a high-performance chip that is impressive across our test suite, especially when we factor in the competitive pricing, backward compatibility with most AM4 socket motherboards, unlocked overclocking features, and bundled cooler.

But we've also found that, after simple push-button overclocking, the Ryzen 7 3700X offers similar performance to the Ryzen 7 3800X, even when it is also overclocked. But for $70 less. The Ryzen 7 3800X is an impressive chip and offers a better mixture of performance than Intel's Core i7-9700, no doubt, but in this case, value seekers might opt for its less expensive sibling.

As the higher-priced version of the Ryzen 7 3700X, the Ryzen 7 3800X has higher base and Boost frequencies of 3.9 and 4.5 GHz, respectively. That's an increase in base frequency and a bump to boost clocks, but the real advantage should lay in the higher Package Power Tracking (PPT) envelope, which is a measurement of the maximum amount of power delivered to the socket. The Ryzen 7 3700X's PPT tops out at 65W, while the motherboard can pump up to 142W to the Ryzen 7 3800X at peak performance. That opens up much more aggressive boost behavior, on both single and multiple cores, that could widen the performance gap beyond what we see on the spec sheet.

As we've seen, gaming remains an advantage for Intel, so if squeezing out every last frame is all you care about, Intel's processors are a good choice. Much of that performance advantage will be less noticeable when gaming at higher resolutions, or if you pair the processors with a lesser graphics card.

But, like most humans, if you do things other than gaming, the Ryzen 7 3800X offers a better mixture of performance in single- and multi-threaded applications. The Ryzen 7 3800X offers twice the threads of the price-comparable Core i7-9700K, and it wields them to great effect in threaded workloads. As such, rendering and encoding remain a strong suit of the Ryzen 7 chips, and AMD's improvements to AVX throughput have yielded impressive results.

Value seekers who aren't afraid to press the Precision Boost Overdrive button and have sufficient cooling should look to the Ryzen 7 3700X for roughly equivalent performance to the Ryzen 7 3800X, particularly if gaming factors heavily into the buying decision. That could save you money, reinforcing our decision to give the Ryzen 7 3700X an Editor's Choice award.

Out of the box, the Ryzen 7 3800X is a better all-arounder than the Core i7-9700K and offers incrementally higher performance than its downstream counterpart. The bundled cooler reduces platform costs, and a wide array of motherboards offers plenty of choices for builders.

AMD Ryzen 7 3 Generation is finally here, and the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X might just be the poster child for what this generation of processors has in store for consumers. Sure, it might have stuck with the 8-core, 16-thread setup, which it inherited from its predecessor, the Ryzen 7 2700X. However, with the new 7nm manufacturing process, it delivers a far better performance at lower power consumption.

The AMD Ryzen 7 3800X was rolled out on Jul 2019 for $328, which puts it in the same general price range as the last-generation Ryzen 7 2700X. This means that at least we're not seeing any considerable price jumps from generation to generation.

It gets more interesting, however, when you compare the Ryzen 7 3800X to its main competitor. The Intel Core i7-9700K is available for $374, an 8-core processor with no hyperthreading, which means that the Ryzen 7 3800X offers twice the processing threads at a lower price tag. Intel is still king when it comes to single-core performance, but when it comes to multi-core ones, the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X is the absolute beast.

The AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, like the rest of AMD's Matisse processors, is built on a 7nm manufacturing node – the smallest in a commercially available CPU. What this means for most people is lower power consumption and much improved performance at the same time.

This decision to 7nm has brought a beefy 15% boost to IPC (instructions per clock) performance. Effectively, compared to a Ryzen 7 2-Generation processor at the same clock speed, you will get a straight 15% increase in performance. That’s not big enough to be evident in day-to-day workloads, but it does still mean something.

What this all means is that the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X is an absolute beast when it comes to multi-threaded workloads, especially at this price point. If you're counting on doing some video editing or compiling one hell of an Excel spreadsheet, you're going to see firsthand a performance boost with the Ryzen 7 3800X.

Bear in mind, however, that if you already have something like the Ryzen 7 2700X, this generation doesn't offer the biggest boost in performance. You might want to wait another year or so before dropping a few hundred bucks, or even opt to splurge on a higher-end but pricier chip.

AMD has been having some trouble as of late which has made it even harder to compete with the incoming wave of Core i7 processors. That has forced the chip maker to be a little more creative and make do with their current product lines. Today we have the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X on hand, which in itself isn’t anything new. It’s basically a refreshed Ryzen 7 2700X with a clock speed boost. We say basically because it’s not a straight refresh however, there’s another change.

If you're mostly playing games on your PC, you will be happy buying either processor. Both proved to be solid options and are evenly matched with a slight advantage to the Intel chip if you don't tune up the Core i7 processor. The base performance we showed for the Ryzen 7 3800X can be achieved with $90 memory, while the Core i7-9700K will require $110 - $120 memory in order to enable the frame rates shown here. It’s not a big cost difference and right now with anything less than an RTX 2070 or Vega 64 you’ll more than likely become GPU limited.

Today we’ll be taking a closer look at the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-core desktop processor that was released in Jul 2019. AMD offers the Ryzen 7 3800X without integrated graphics. It runs $328 shipped and is ideal for those that plan on using it a system with a dedicated graphics card.

One of the nice things about the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X processors is that the retail boxed models come with a CPU cooler. So, you can pick something like the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X up for $328 and don’t need to spend any extra money on CPU cooling.

The AMD Ryzen 7 3800X retail boxed processor comes with the traditional ‘pancake’ CPU cooler. Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done on this processor which is rated at 105W TDP. You do not need to have an aftermarket cooling solution unless you want to.

The AMD Ryzen 7 3800X seems to be a decent performing chip that is readily available for $328 at your favorite retailer. The main competition for this processor is the Core i7-9700K 8-Core unlocked desktop processor with Intel UHD Graphics 630 graphics ($374 shipped).

If extended overclocking and boost frequencies are trivial matters to you, AMD also offers the Ryzen 7 3700X at $274. It’s still outfitted with 8-cores and 16-threads, but clocks in at a slower 3.6GHz and maxes out at only 4.4GHz.

Now the biggest question is can AMD’s Ryzen 7 processor play games? The answer is simply yes as it got a respectable gaming score of 95% in our benchmarks.

Regardless of those external factors, the Ryzen 7 3800X proves it has the chops to be your main gaming system and a just as effective media creation platform – two things that are becoming intrinsically connected in this age of live-streaming, eSports and uploading gameplay videos.

The Ryzen 7 3800X clocks up to 4.5Ghz just as it promises on the box, and with AMD’s software you can take one of the cores all the way up to 4.6GHz. However, don’t expect to get much beyond that without seriously upgrading your cooling solution and manually tweaking voltages behind the operating system level.

That said, to squeeze out all the potential of this surprisingly potent high-end chip, you’ll want (and need) to splurge on an enthusiast-grade X370, X470, X570 motherboard.

Fresh from a successful roll-out of mainstream Ryzen 7 CPUs, AMD's attack on Intel now extends down into the high-end with its Ryzen 7 3800X processors, which the company is making available as of Jul 2019.

Although the 105W-rated cooler doesn't feature a copper base or the LEDs found on AMD's higher-end thermal solutions, it does handle Ryzen 7's heat output deftly enough to facilitate XFR-triggered frequencies. This gives you an extra 200 MHz. We were even able to overclock the Ryzen 7 3800X to 4.7 GHz within a reasonable temperature range. The fan also blows down onto the motherboard, which provide additional cooling around the socket. If you need more bling, AMD recently announced that it now offers the LED-equipped cooler separately.

Like all other Matisse chips, the Ryzen 7-series CPUs drop into any Socket AM4 motherboard. But most will find a home on boards equipped with the A320 chipset, which has provisions for overclocking and offers plenty of connectivity options. Unlike Intel, AMD plans to utilize its current socket until 2020, so upgrading to future models shouldn't require a new motherboard.

Which GPU to Pick for AMD Ryzen 7 3800X

Below is a comparison of all graphics cards average FPS performance (using an average of 80+ games at ultra quality settings), combined with the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X.

Graphics Card Price Cost Per Frame Avg 1080p Avg 1440p Avg 4K
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24GB $ 1,499 $ 5.6 267.2 FPS
212.2 FPS
131.2 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB $ 699 $ 3 232.8 FPS
184.9 FPS
114.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB $ 499 $ 2.8 178.1 FPS
141.5 FPS
87.5 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN RTX 24GB $ 2,499 $ 15.3 163.6 FPS
134.1 FPS
83.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB $ 1,299 $ 8.2 159.2 FPS
130.6 FPS
81.2 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB $ 699 $ 4.8 144.5 FPS
117.4 FPS
72.6 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN V 12GB $ 2,999 $ 21.7 138.5 FPS
113.6 FPS
72.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 8GB $ 699 $ 5.1 136.6 FPS
109.8 FPS
67.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB $ 759 $ 5.9 128 FPS
104.7 FPS
64.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB $ 499 $ 3.9 127.3 FPS
101.1 FPS
62.4 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN Xp 12GB $ 1,199 $ 9.6 125.5 FPS
101.1 FPS
63.9 FPS
AMD Radeon VII 16GB $ 699 $ 5.6 125.5 FPS
100.3 FPS
61 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB $ 399 $ 3.3 122.2 FPS
97.7 FPS
59.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 8GB $ 499 $ 4.1 120.6 FPS
94.4 FPS
59.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB $ 400 $ 3.5 114.2 FPS
87.9 FPS
54 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5700 8GB $ 349 $ 3.1 112 FPS
89.6 FPS
54.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB $ 499 $ 4.6 108.8 FPS
85.6 FPS
52.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB $ 350 $ 3.3 107.4 FPS
80.9 FPS
48.8 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT 6GB $ 279 $ 2.6 105.7 FPS
83.8 FPS
50.7 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 295X2 4GB $ 1,499 $ 14.7 101.9 FPS
79.1 FPS
51.3 FPS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB $ 499 $ 4.9 101.6 FPS
81.3 FPS
49.2 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB $ 409 $ 4.1 100.8 FPS
79.3 FPS
48.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB $ 999 $ 10.2 98 FPS
76.2 FPS
46.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB $ 279 $ 2.9 95.9 FPS
75.5 FPS
45.8 FPS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB $ 399 $ 4.2 95.3 FPS
76 FPS
46.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB $ 399 $ 4.3 92.8 FPS
72.4 FPS
43.6 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB $ 229 $ 2.5 90.4 FPS
71.2 FPS
43.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB $ 649 $ 7.6 85.3 FPS
66.8 FPS
40.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB $ 220 $ 2.6 85.1 FPS
67 FPS
40.6 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 590 8GB $ 279 $ 3.5 80.7 FPS
61.7 FPS
36.6 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 FURY X 4GB $ 649 $ 8.4 77.5 FPS
63.4 FPS
39.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4GB $ 160 $ 2.2 74.1 FPS
58.2 FPS
35.2 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB 8GB $ 199 $ 2.7 73.4 FPS
56.1 FPS
33.2 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB $ 549 $ 7.5 73.1 FPS
56.6 FPS
34.6 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB $ 229 $ 3.2 71.6 FPS
54.6 FPS
32.2 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 Nano 4GB $ 649 $ 9.2 70.4 FPS
56.7 FPS
35.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN BLACK 6GB $ 999 $ 14.6 68.3 FPS
52.5 FPS
33.4 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 FURY 4GB $ 549 $ 8.2 66.6 FPS
53.4 FPS
32.7 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB $ 254 $ 3.8 66.4 FPS
51.1 FPS
31.1 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 4GB 4GB $ 169 $ 2.6 65.8 FPS
50.4 FPS
29.8 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 390X 8GB $ 429 $ 6.7 64.1 FPS
51.2 FPS
31.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB $ 170 $ 2.7 63 FPS
48.6 FPS
29.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB $ 329 $ 5.3 61.9 FPS
47.3 FPS
29.9 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB $ 400 $ 6.6 60.2 FPS
47.7 FPS
29.7 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 390 8GB $ 329 $ 5.5 59.8 FPS
46.8 FPS
27.1 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB $ 169 $ 2.9 59.1 FPS
46.1 FPS
27.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GB $ 149 $ 2.6 56.5 FPS
44.1 FPS
26.6 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB $ 179 $ 3.4 52.7 FPS
41.4 FPS
25 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 380X 4GB $ 229 $ 5.2 44.3 FPS
34.4 FPS
21.3 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 285 2GB $ 249 $ 6.3 39.8 FPS
31 FPS
18.1 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 380 2GB $ 199 $ 5 39.5 FPS
30.7 FPS
18.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB $ 169 $ 4.3 38.9 FPS
30.4 FPS
18.4 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 280 3GB $ 279 $ 7.2 38.5 FPS
30.3 FPS
17.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB $ 199 $ 5.2 38.1 FPS
29.4 FPS
17.6 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 3GB $ 169 $ 5.1 33.1 FPS
25.6 FPS
15.3 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 560 4GB $ 99 $ 3.2 30.6 FPS
23.4 FPS
14 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 2GB $ 159 $ 5.3 30.1 FPS
22.9 FPS
14.2 FPS
AMD Radeon R7 370 2GB $ 149 $ 5.1 29.5 FPS
21.6 FPS
13.4 FPS
AMD Radeon R7 265 2GB $ 149 $ 5.1 29.3 FPS
20.8 FPS
13 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 460 4GB $ 140 $ 5.2 27.1 FPS
20.7 FPS
12.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB $ 149 $ 5.7 26.1 FPS
17.8 FPS
11.2 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 550 2GB $ 79 $ 3.7 21.4 FPS
16.5 FPS
9.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 2GB $ 79 $ 3.9 20.4 FPS
15.7 FPS

Related Discussions and Issues

Deblobman July 27, 2020

Help! New Ryzen 7 3800X not running at normal temps?

Computer Type: Desktop

GPU: MSI GTX 2070 8Gb

CPU: Ryzen 7 3800x

Motherboard: MSI Gaming edge x570

RAM: Corsair RAM 32Gb @ 3000MHz


Case: Provide the make/model, cooling solution, and fan configuration.

Operating System & Version: Windows 10 pro

Background Applications: Discord, Spotify, Rainmeter, Oculus, Steam

Description of Original Problem: I just jumped from a threadripper 1920x to the R7 3800x. On the threadripper, my 240mm liquid cooler was running at temps of about 50 while idle. After swapping to the 3800x at base clock, my idle temps were at 90-100.

Troubleshooting: I immediately turned off my pc, and swapped out my old cooler for the wraith prism. My idle temps are now at about 60-70, which I feel is still a bit high. I have ordered a new liquid cooler, as I'm used to an idle below 50C. Is there anything else that may be wrong? Could I have permanently damaged my CPU? Do I need to completely apply new thermal paste?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

mista_r0boto July 27, 2020

You should always remove old thermal paste, and apply new thermal paste anytime you break the seal between cpu and cooler. Modern cpus shut off automatically to prevent overheating. So most likely you are ok. Just make sure you have a good cooling solution before you fire it up again.

Deblobman July 27, 2020

My main concern at this point is that the temps are still relatively high even with the stock cooler at around 60, and hitting up to 85 under load when testing

jeja12 July 16, 2020

[BUILD HELP] 3800x now or wait for 4th gen?

Basically the ryzen 7 3800x is on sale right now on amazon for £290 (cheaper than the 3700x). If I wait im assuming a 4600 will be better and most likely a similiar price once it comes out, or am i wrong and should go for the 3800x now?

rihijs15 July 16, 2020

I think 3800 is good cpu but if you want can wait.

Maymayboy2 July 16, 2020

is this cpu an upgrade? or is it for a new build?

jeja12 July 16, 2020

New build, also what mobo will work with 4th gen ryzen since i assume they will use a newer socket.

IAmMalfeasance July 16, 2020

If you can wait then wait, if you need now then buy now

uradonkey003 July 16, 2020

Go for the 3800X now if you can't wait otherwise wait until release so you can see some actual comparisons.

bigfatg11 July 16, 2020

Can we stop with this? Like really?

We don't know anything about the new chips. Whether you choose to wait or buy now is up to you, but any advice you get is just speculation. Sure the new one will be better, but will whatever unknown improvement be worth the price? No one knows.

Seriously these posts are just getting annoying now.

NobilityAK47 July 22, 2020

NZXT H1 + 3800X Idle Temp Sanity Check (pls help)

Long shot here since the SFFPC community is small relative to the current PC community


I just recently built my NZXT H1 with a 3800x and replaced the stock paste with thermal grizzly kryonaut. After flashing BIOS to the latest version and running XMP profiles for my 3600mhz 32 RAM; my idle temps for the CPU are hovering between 48-58C. I'm sorry but is this normal? This is my first SFFPC build ever since my last PC was 5 years old in a Fractal Design R5, but I feel like I applied the thermal paste wrong, or smudged it too much etc.

I read in another thread that the stock/PBO delivers too much power so I could look into undervolting? Or there was a Ryzen power plan called "Cool and Low"? How would I do either of that? I've never undervolted my CPU before. Running MSI B450I with latest BIOS update 7A40vA9. Using CPUID HWMonitor and the only application I have running is Mozilla Firefox and Wallpaper Engine. Please help.

I checked my BIOS settings for my MSI B450i, am I blind? I don't see the undervolt offset option. Anyone else with B450 can chime in?

adamEbrew July 22, 2020

Idle doesn't mean much. How are temps under load? Preferably checked during a long and intense workload or gaming session.

NobilityAK47 July 22, 2020

Is there actual temp recording software that will record temps as I play/work? As far as I'm aware, I'd just have to keep alt+tabbing and recording temps to calculate average. Wondering if there's a more streamlined option

adamEbrew July 22, 2020

Also, check the temps with AMD's Ryzen Master. 3rd party software tends to wakes cores to check temps, and although Ryzen's software isn't perfect, it gives a more realistic temp reading for idle.

NobilityAK47 July 22, 2020

Okay, I just ran a cinebenchr20 and Ryzen Master shows that it hovers around 78-79C under load. Is this safe operating temps?

EntrancedOrange July 22, 2020

Dont undervolt. Try a stress test and see what it is under load. Check your fan curve. Try repasting. Those temps seem high. But arent hurting anything.

NobilityAK47 July 22, 2020

I’ll try to repaste, shipping estimates aren’t great even with Amazon Prime rn. Recommend a CPU stress test program? I use unigine heaven for my GPU

NobilityAK47 July 22, 2020

Okay, I just ran a cinebenchR20 and Ryzen Master shows that it hovers around 78-79C under load. Is this safe operating temps?

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Critics Reviews

The Ryzen 7 3800X is an impressive chip and offers a better mixture of performance than Intel's Core i7-9700K, no doubt, but in this case, value seekers might opt for its less expensive sibling.
The AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT is only a slight improvement over the existing Ryzen 7 3800X. However, because it slots in at the same price point, folks that haven't upgraded to a 3rd-generation Ryzen ...
Our Ryzen 7 3800XT review takes a look at this 8-core/16-thread processor being launched today at $399—the launch price of the 3800X. The Core i7-10700K has largely eroded the performance leadership of the 3800X, forcing AMD to sell it at prices under $340.
Out of the box, the Ryzen 7 3800X is a better all-arounder than the Core i7-9700K and offers incrementally higher performance than its downstream counterpart. The bundled cooler reduces platform ...
The Ryzen 7 3800XT saw small boost over its predecessor, but like most benchmarks showed, it's not worth upgrading if you already have a Ryzen 7 3700X or Ryzen 7 3800X.
The Ryzen 7 3700X is an eight-core, 16-thread AMD third-gen processor that is close to identical to the original Ryzen 7 3800X, barring a lower TDP (65 watts, down from 105 watts) and a lower ...
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The AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz Eight-Core AM4 Processor is a powerful eight-core processor with 16 threads, designed for socket AM4 motherboards. Built with Zen 2 architecture, the third-generation 7nm Ryzen processor offers increased performance compared to its predecessor. It has a base clock speed of 3.9 GHz and can reach a max boost clock speed of 4.5 GHz.
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wasiup July 29, 2020
Pins coated in grey. Is it ok?
I bought a second hand AMD A10-9700E processor. Couple of pins are covered in grey coat. This is not my first AMD AM4 processor (i have also ryz 5 3800x and ryz 5 2600) and i have never seen pins like this before. First i thought this is a thermal paste, but it is not. It is very regular and looks like factory. Could you help me and explain if this is normal and it is leaving factory like this? I attach photos to show what I mean.

ex_bubblehead August 24, 2012
Looks like the gold plating has peeled off rather than something coating the pin/s. This can happen when inserting/removing from a tight socket. Any pin that this has happened to is now subject to corrosion and may cause random system problems down the road.
Regev July 27, 2020
Which of these is the best CPU+cooler+motherboard combo?
Hey guys!

So, I got a 1TB NVMe, a 700W Platinum+ SFX-L, and a kit of 32GB 3200. Thanks to your advice, I was gonna get the i9-9900 (at 50% off from a family member working for Intel), but when I went to find an ITX motherboard the only one I found in my country that can sustain an i9 is the Phantom, which costs $258. I also read that I'd need to buy a cooler cause the Intel 9th gen stock one sucks, so it's another $59 for the L12S.

I'm reconsidering options before ordering. Here are possible combinations I found (all with mITX motherboards). I do not need a video card at all, it's purely for productivity uses (lots of text, very heavy browser use, web developing, and some programming). When necessary, I factored in the cheapest 1030 that I found. Also, I used the stock cooler (hope it's enough) on all builds (except the 9900). Listed in order of price:

  • Ryzen 5 3400G = $271 (B350) or $301 (B450)
  • i3 10100 = $300 (B460) or $336 (Z490)
  • i5 10400 = $390 (B460) or $426 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700 = $396 (B350) or $427 (B450) or $497 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600 = $402 (B350) or $419 (B450) or $493 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10500 = $412 (B460) or $448 (Z490)
  • i5 10600 = $427 (B460) or $463 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700X = $430 (B350) or $461 (B450) or $531 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600X = $432 (B350) or $463 (B450) or $533 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10600K = $482 (B460) or $518 ( Z490)
  • Ryzen 5 3600XT = $490 (B350) or $521 (B450) or $591 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 7 3700X = $529 (B350) or $560 (B450) or $630 (X470/B550)
  • i7 10700 = $568 (B460) or $604 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 3800X = $574 (B350) or $605 (B450, $675 (X470/B550)
  • i9 9900 = $590 (50% off on CPU, pricey Z390 + Noctua L12S)
  • i7 10700K = $628 (B460) or $664 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 3800XT = $653 (B350) or $684 (B450) or $754 (X470/B550)
  • Which configuration gives the best bang for the buck for the uses I listed (without suffering any productivity setback)? Still the i9?

    Thanks <3
    Karadjgne December 26, 2012
    Things take time. It takes a cpu a certain amount of time to render anything, game frame, web page etc. A stronger cpu can do things in less time as it has more available resources to work with. A 3700x might render a page in 1 second, a 3400G might take 2 seconds. To a cpu that's a huge improvement, massive really. To you, you blinked and it was over with. Can't really say just exactly how much of a difference there is on such a small scale. But when it comes to large scale, that's a different story. Play gta5 on a 3400G and 3700x, there's a fps difference, then add in streaming and the 4 cores of the 3400G just got swamped and fps drops like a bad habit. The 8/16 of the 3700x doesn't even blink.

    Mmorpgs online are even worse. All that AI can be seriously detrimental to fps. I play swtor and in single player ultra have no issues on an i7-3770K with getting 90fps+. 8man op and I'm into 60-90fps range, 16man op and I'm averaging 30fps with all cpu details disabled/min and a 24man world boss fight is miserable at 5-10fps and everything disabled. Just way too much, too intensive, too cpu challenging for even a 8thread i7 at 4.6GHz to handle. 3400G will be far worse as it has no Lcache and not nearly the same resources, even if it does have better IPC. Fastest runner in the world is useless if he has a ball and chain around 1 ankle. Make him stronger, make the chain longer and he'll just lick it up and run.

    B450m-H is a value motherboard. More tailored towards the 3600 or lesser cpus. It'll handle a 3700x just fine under normal circumstances, but Ryzens are dynamic cpus, they boost according to voltages, temps, loads. With no heatsink the VRM's will run hotter and will limit the boosting ability of the cpu. They won't overheat, but instead of seeing nice high boosts, you'll be relegated to more minimal boosts. The cpu will protect itself and the motherboard from excessive power draws.
    coneil3822 July 25, 2020
    3800x Temps
    I bet you get this question like 1000 times a day, Im sorry.

    Im using a 3800x with a Kraken X73 360mm AiO. In Cinebench I get max temps of 75 degrees and when gaming i get 60-65 degrees. Are these good? Forgive me im new to PC. Idle is around 32-35 degrees.

    Thank you for your answers in advance.
    Zerk2012 October 06, 2014
    Perfect you should be getting the full boost speed from the processor.
    gtrstefan June 30, 2020
    Brand new build won't start
    Hello, i just made my first build and it does not start.

    Specs list:
    - Memory GSKill Trident Z Neo 16GB DDR4 3600MHz CL18 Dual Channel Kit
    • AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9GHz Socket AM4
    • Asus x570p Prime motherboard
    • L-Link LL-PS-1000-80+-G ATX 1000W 80 Plus Gold
    • MSI AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT Mech OC 8gb DDR6
    All power cables are properly connected.
    I get 1 Long Beep and 2 Short Beeps (only once, not repeated) when power on which indicates some Memory Error according to the motherboard manual.

    • Graphic card also does not start on power up. Fans stand still.
    • Case fans and liquid cooler works properly.
    • USB Ports don't work.
    • RAM gets power (RGB lights work)
    • MotherBoard BIOS Not updated to the latest version. (can't update it because i can't enter the bios and GPU does not give any signal to the monitor)
    • CPU has no integrated gpu.
    What could it be & what could i do?
    Rillism May 16, 2020
    Is there any way to have my CPU throttle down at idle to reduce temps and noise?
    Hello, I just recently built my first PC and am a bit inexperienced in regards to controlling the system.

    I am running a Ryzen 7 3800x which has a base clock of 3.9 GHz. My issue is that the CPU is constantly running at this clock speed.

    Now I understand (based on recent searches) that this isn't really an issue, they are designed to run at base clock speed.
    However, I am wondering if there are any ways to have the clock speed reduce to maybe 50% at idle to reduce noise from my fans but still allow it to ramp up when needed.

    I have my power plan set to balanced with a minimum CPU state set to the default 5% and the max at 100%.
    I have also set the power mode to "better performance" but this setting seems to not change anything.

    I know that my temps and fan noise comes down with clock speed because I currently set the max CPU state to 50% and am having no problems with thermals or noise even with light activity.
    The difference in base clock and 50% clock temps are about 20 degrees.

    TLDR: Is there any way to have my clock speeds drop to around 50% at idle and ramp up to 100% when loaded to reduce temps and noise under light usage?

    Apologies for the wordy post, I have been searching the internet all day and cannot find an easy way to search this specific question through google.
    If you need anymore information, I have downloaded all the system monitoring programs that people commonly reference (HWinfo, Core Temp, Ryzen Master, CPU-Z, etc)

    Any help is greatly appreciated.
    drea.drechsler October 16, 2017
    Ryzen boosts to max clocks from idle on one core at a time, that's the way it's designed to work. AMD called it a 'rush to idle' when it was released. When it does it is also normal to see an instantaneous temp spike that also drops away pretty quickly. It's very brief and doesn't add much heat to the processor...kind of like reading the temp of a match in a room but you're still comfortable and cool. It works very much differently from the way Intel processors work so don't try to make it work that way as it will only frustrate you.

    To see the true thermal state of the processor you need to look at an averaging readout. Ryzenmaster does that and HWInfo has one too. But that spikey instantaneous reading is important because that's what fans react you have to set up a custom profile to keep fans steady until about 70C or wherever the spikes are peaking at for you so you can keep them quiet.

    If you installed the AMD chipset drivers it would install a Ryzen Balanced power plan. Run that one but leave the min power state at 99% as it was installed. That lets the processor manage power instead of Windows... the processor's much faster and more effective as it makes power changes up to 100 times a second.

    In BIOS there is a Platform Thermal Limit setting that you can set for what you want. Otherwise, the processor uses it's design limit, Tjmax, or 95C. With decent cooling you should be able to keep the processor from ever exceeding 80-85C, even in an extreme processing load, so setting it there isn't a bad idea.
    taimur_111 May 15, 2020
    Gigabyte z170n gaming 5 itx OverClocking help
    I have z170 system that I want to Overclock. My 6700k is still running solid. I was thinking to upgrade to 9700K or Ryzen 3800x. But the increase in gaming performance is minimal so I thought to stick with my current setup for another year.

    I am absolutely a noob in overclocking. I use Gigabyte's automatic OC for my CPU and it gets to 4.4GHz. If i try 4.5 it crashes in windows.
    I followed youtube video where the guy has same chipset motherboard and I OC'd to 4.5GHz with vcore = 1.330 but system was not stable (tried increasing vcore too)

    Maybe my CPU is not good enough to be pushed anything above 4.4? I have seen people OC'd to 4.6 with air cooler without any problem.

    here is my BIOS OC page image:

    My specs are:
    i7 6700k @ 4.4GHz Automatic OC
    Gigabyte z170n gaming 5 mitx MB
    16GB 2166 DDR4 with XMP 2666 (currently enabled XMP) - also tried disabling this but still crashes
    650w PSU
    RTX 2080 Super

    Temps idle ~ 26-28C
    Temps load ~ 50ish C

    Any help or direction is appreciated.

    Youtube video that I followed to OC:
    Zerk2012 October 06, 2014
    That is fine for your CPU temps but is it actually cooling the Vram area like a normal cooler does. That board only has a 3 phase for the power delivers and poor cooling for that. You can overclock your CPU to whatever but if your board don't have the proper Vram cooling or power delivery it will never be stable.

    Just because it offers it means nothing you might get it with a lesser CPU like a 6600K again with proper cooling NOT JUST THE PROCESSOR .

    Never use auto overclock for the reason stated above.

    EDIT note here where they actually had to point a 120mm fan right at the board.

    And again all processors overclock different just the way it is. You can buy 2 identical cars and one will outrun the other.

    EDIT again 0.1 is going to help how much?
    nabajoli May 07, 2020
    Making new pc need little bit help about it
    Hello all making new pc im going to write the stuff i want to buy but i dont know this stuff gonna work together thats why im asking from here

    CPU :
    Amd Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9/4.5Ghz AM4
    Motherboard :
    MSI MB B360M Mortar Titanium Soket 1151 DDR4 2666 DVI VGA HDMI USB3.1 mATX
    GPU :
    Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 5700XT Gaming OC 8GB
    RAM :
    CORSAIR 16GB (2x8GB) Vengeance DDR4 3200MHz CL16 RGB Pro Led
    CASE :
    Thermaltake View 27 600W 80+ PSU 4x120mm Fan
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe 500GB 3500MB/s-3300MB/s M.2 SSD

    Do you guys think this computer im making will run smooth and without problem ? thanks for the answers.
    Djoza April 05, 2020
    the mobo worries me.You ram wont work on 3200mhz.I would suggest either this:

    Or this: ASUS ROG Strix X470-F

    I built played with your build a little bit: System Builder
    The main things i changed are:
    Added a liquid AIO
    Different MOBO
    Upped the ram capacity (2x16gb) and speed (3600Mhz)
    Doubled the size of the m.2 ssd
    I couldnt find the gpu so i suggest sticking with the gigabyte 5700XT
    Different case cuz the other one honestly it was ugly and it had a psu.The psus that come with cases are ussually trash.
    Switched the PSU
    Added another case fan
    rag0n May 05, 2020
    Aorus X570 Ultra showing CPU temperature -55C and sometimes no boot.
    Some days ago after a boot i noticed that my pump fin was not spining at all after the post. It spinned for a few seconds befor post but then it stopped. I got in the bios settings and I noticed that the cpu temperature was read at -55C. I got in smartfan 5 and i got it to work only by setting the fan mode to PWM instead of automatic. I also set it to full speed. I have my pump connected to cpu_opt port. HWinfo64 and Ryzen master can succesfully show me the cpu temps. Other problems i faces are the foolowing.
  • Sometimes my pc doesn't post and it is stuck in cpu check led untill I completely kill the power from the psu for a few seconds and then i get it back on. Then it posts ok.
  • 2 times when i booted into windows and tried to launch ryzen master i got a failed to initialize error kindly reinstall and after the second reinstall im now unable to get it to work.
  • My rig
    ryzen 3800x
    Aorus x570 ultra
    trident Z rgb 2x8gb cas 16 3600 mghz samsung die
    rm750x by corsair
    cougar helor 240 AIO cooler
    rog strix gtx 1080
    Any suggestions would be really helpful
    screenshot of my mobo cpu temp
    rag0n October 07, 2017
    So, I solved it and I'm going to leave this here to help anyone else with the same problem. It was a real nightmare.
    I noticed that even with the computer disconected from the wall power my CPU LED in the post code was not going completely off and i thought it had something to do with the problem. I started unplugging peripherals from the pc. When i unplugged the displayport from my gpu i noticed it went off. Note that the displayport was my 2nd monitor connection as i have my main monitor plugged by dvi.
    Now everything is normal. Temperature readings inthe bios are back and boot is fast and proper.
    As this video states View:
    some displayport cables have a pin on on position 20 which can deliver power to your pc that they shouldn't have causing those problems. I hope this post helps other people too and buy branded DP cables.
    SkyRock1986 April 26, 2020
    Will this CPU help me?
    Okay guys-

    I might have made a big mistake, but maybe not? I do not know. I want you to decide.

    I currently have a Ryzen 5 2600x paired with a RTX 2070 Aorus Extreme. I been indulging myself lately into the world of Red Dead Redemption 2. I have noticed very quickly that holy cow does this game eat frames and really reck havoc on hardware.

    As I played, I asked myself what could I do to improve my experience, but at low cost. I thought about my hardware and told myself although an RTX 2070 is not the best its a big leap in price to go from that GPU to an RTX 2080ti where I would want to jump to justify enough performance boost. So I said, okay where else can I improve because the game LOOKS amazing on my RTX 2070, and I understand a better GPU would give me more frames, but its just too much $ to make that jump.... So I thought well maybe a CPU upgrade would give me a little more. Even 5-8 fps would be satisfying to me where I am at right now. So I looked... I researched... I decided to pull the trigger on Ryzen 7 3700x, but let me tell you why. Ryzen 9 3900x Would be a workstation beast absolutely, but it cost nearly $440. So I looked at the 3800x and thought to myself well if I settled there I minds well take the leap and do the 3900x because even the 3800x will run me at least $350 or more. So then I kept searching and wanted to search CPUS for games only. I do not stream or video edit, but I wanted something POWERFUL for what I wanted to use it for. Then I came across the 3700x an 8 core 16 thread beast for only $293 , could it be? Is this true? WAIT WHAT? For gaming purposes alone it says it basically matches the 3900x, and is considered the best gaming cpu for Ryzen. So I threw it into my Amazon cart and bought that bad boy. But, Should I have? will it indeed achieve what I am looking for it to do?
    cryoburner October 08, 2011
    The new processor might help your performance somewhat, particularly if you are not trying to run the game at max settings. What resolution are you gaming at? It might be worth adjusting graphics settings in the game and seeing how much that can help. Hardware Unboxed did a nice two-part optimization guide for the game that goes over all the settings, showing what kind of impact each has on performance and visuals. The videos are each around 20 minutes though, which might make for a relatively long watch. It is possible to substantially increase performance while still keeping the game looking good though.


    JGdude April 22, 2020
    My heating problem is EXTREME
    I do not understand why my cpu is hitting such high temperatures. Under stress tests at 100% load, within a minute it already hits 95 degrees, even just opening a video game, the one I tried with core temp in specific is Battlefront II, it's well into high 80's low 90's range. I'm using the stock fan, but also I haven't overclocked the CPU whatsoever. It could be my case fans not supplying enough help. But I even turned my fans ALL THE WAY UP in bios and still to no evail. It's both loud as hell, and apparently hot as hell too.

    OS - Windows 10
    CPU - AMD Ryzen 3800x
    GPU - RTX 2080SUPER
    Motherboard - Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING
    RAM - 32GIG 3200
    Case - CORSAIR Carbide Series SPEC-OMEGA

    I'm also using the default case fans. It's annoying because I tried putting in liquid cooling but I don't think this motherboard supports the H100i, but if it does I would much appreciate help setting it up seeing as though I am having cooling problems lol. Although anything helps at this point, I don't want to literally melt my CPU. I know that 95 degrees is extreme temperatures even for the 3800x, but I'm surprised even at low loads why it's heating up so much so quick. The stock cooler came with thermal paste so it's not that. I've tried reseating the cooler and heat-sink to no prevail. Like I said I put fans to full power. I'm out of any idea that my novice brain can handle. Thanks to anyone who can help. I can also take pictures of the case if needed.

    Here's the H100i full name for specifications - Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM
    Karadjgne December 26, 2012
    Front/bottom fans need to push/pull air into the case. Rear/top fans need to push/pull air out of the case. Air goes in one way, heat comes out the other.

    No worries on the AIO. If it has an AM4 mounting kit, it fits. It'll fit on Any AM4 motherboard. Or AM3/+, or lga11xx Intel.

    The 3800x is an 8core/16thread 105w TDP race engine. Stress tests will use AVX, which is like adding NOS to the mix. And then there's PBO, which will maximize boost, like running that engine on jet fuel. And you wonder at heat output.

    Get your fans seated and oriented correctly. I'd suggest you use the aio, it's far better than the stock cooler, even if the stock cooler is pretty decent. The aio has additional fans, that's a bonus for case airflow. Doesn't matter front or top mounted radiator, as long as the fans move air in the right direction. Set it up correctly and use the iCue software to get it working/performing as it should. That means it must be seated correctly, thermal paste done/cleaned correctly, remove the plastic safety tape from the underside of the pump.

    With that cooler, even Battlefront shouldn't be seeing temps over 60ish.

    Use Ryzen Master to setup the cpu. Windows power plan set to Ryzen Balanced or Microsoft Balanced. Not Performance. Don't worry about idle temps of 40ish to 50ish, that's normal for Ryzens, they don't work like Intels.
    jmhoward622 April 21, 2020
    Is an RM750x a good choice for a 2080/3800x/16GB DDR4?
    The reviews look good.
    Unolocogringo December 31, 2007
    It is a good solid power supply.
    Corsair RM750x 750W Power Supply – Page 6 – Just make sure to run 2 PCI-E power cables to the card for stability.
    I'm running a RM850x myself for about a year. Very happy with it.
    Kazuki70 April 13, 2020
    Most build done. Need help deciding between a provisional 3600 or just going with 3700x.
    So it's been a 5 years sense I last got a PC, which i don't love 'cause I didn't have much choice on parts, just built it... (960 2gb here).

    Anyway I want a machine to last another 5 plus years. But this time I want to actually you know... enjoy my PC, and actually do something with it. I'll be talking in euros and listing the lowest prices I can get them for.

    I'm sold on the RTX 2070 Super, seems amazing for a 5 year plan.

    Then first though about getting a Ryzen 7 3800x... but found out the 3700x is the sameish and even though I want a good build, I also want to save all the money I can (-50€). Then i read some more and watched a bunch of videos and found that Ryzen 5 3600x (-110€) offers basically the same performance and basically so does the 3600 (-40€).
    So I'm thinking hard about Ryzen 7 3700x vs Ryzen 5 3600 (-140€).

    For the Cooler, not the stock, maybe I'll switch later on but will go for a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition, the 40 bucks are kinda worth it, its even way more silent.

    With these two builds I basically want to list all the best parts I know for the job.

    GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER Gaming OC 3X 8G (580€)
    CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X (330€)
    Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition (40€)
    Case: Fractal Design Meshify C TG (90€)
    Mobo: ATX Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite (220€)
    SSD: M.2 2280 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB (130€)
    PSU: Seasonic Focus Gold GX 750W (130€)
    RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z Neo 2x8GB 3600MHz CL16 (140€)

    Or maybe...

    GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER Gaming OC 3X 8G (580€)
    CPU: Ryzen 7 3600 (190€)
    Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition (40€)
    Case: Fractal Design Meshify C TG (90€)
    Mobo: ATX MSI B450 Tomahawk Max (130€)
    SSD: M.2 2280 Western Digital Blue SN550 500GB (80€)
    PSU: Corsair RM Series RM650 2019 (100€)
    RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V (2x8GB) 3600MHz CL16 (100€)

    How big of an impact would that x570 auros elite have compared to that b450 tomahawk max?

    I read the PSU Corsair RM (2019) are not that good... thoughts?

    Does the Trident Z Neo work that much better for a Ryzen 3000 and a x570 mobo? at least compared to a Ripjaws V. one is supposed to be made for that build and the other for intel?

    The plan would be to either go for the first build and just use it for the next 5 years plus!
    Buy the b450 msi tomahawk max or an even cheaper msi that does the same without lights.
    Then wait 2-whatevermax years and buy a new motherboard and CPU right when the time is right.
    Also by saving money on the board too, I wont feel too bad if I have to replace it, when I replace the CPU.

    What do you think?
    Spend the extra lot of cash now and get a PC I think will be just fine for the next 5 years, or save the 300€ now and upgrade later on?

    Can the 3600 even play top games while watching a stream on the other monitor and something else on the other? will I feel for the extra cores and threads.
    Also heard the new consoles will get 8 cores 16 threads which would lead on more games being optimized that way.

    Any and all advice is welcome!

    Edit: can always get a 2700x since either that or the 3600 are going to be upgraded in 2-3 years.
    Hellfire13 April 20, 2016
    Your call mate.
    Then the CPU choice will come down to basically what you are going to do with the machine. If its only for gaming and basic multitasking then even a 3600 should be fine for a few years. But if you are going to do any productivity related stuff, you will need all the cores you can get your hands on. Also some CPU intensive games will run better with more cores, not by much though.
    ScreperisLT April 12, 2020
    New CPU
    Hello, i want to buy a new CPU. Is it supported for my system?

    Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-A
    CPU: Ryzen 5 2600
    GPU: GTX 1050Ti
    Ram: 16gb 3200mhz ddr4
    Ssd: 240gb
    Case: i dont remember
    PSU: Chieftec GPS-500A8

    And i want to buy Ryzen 7 3800X.
    So is it supported for my system?
    RealBeast September 13, 2010
    Yes, and you need bios 1201 installed before removing the old CPU.

    See THIS .