AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Review

High-end Desktop processor released in 2018 with 8 cores and 16 threads. With base clock at 3.7GHz, max speed at 4.3GHz, and a 105W power rating. Ryzen 7 2700X is based on the Pinnacle Ridge 12nm family and part of the Ryzen 7 series.
Price 78.1%
Speed 84%
Productivity 83%
Gaming 88%
Category Desktop
Target high-end
Socket Compatibility AM4
Integrated Graphics None
Cooler Included Yes
Overclock Potential 2 %
Year 2018 Model
Price 329 USD
Number of Cores 8 Cores
Number of Threads 16 Threads
Core Frequency 3.7 GHz
Boost Frequency 4.3 GHz
Max Stable Overclock 4.4 GHz
Power Consumption 105 W
Manufacturing Process 12 nm
L3 Cache 16 MB
Maximum Supported Memory 64 GB
Price-Value Score 78.1 %
Speed Score 84 %
Productivity Score 83 %
Gaming Score 88 %
Max 1080p Bottleneck 30 %
Max 1440p Bottleneck 15 %
Max 4K Bottleneck 7.5 %
Overall Score 49/100

The Ryzen 7 2700X is one of AMD's high-end Desktop processors. It was released in 2018 with 8 cores and 16 threads. With base clock at 3.7GHz, max speed at 4.3GHz, and a 105W power rating. The Ryzen 7 2700X is based on the Pinnacle Ridge 12nm family and is part of the Ryzen 7 series.

Ryzen 7 2700X is also the successor of AMD's last gen Ryzen 7 1700X processor that was based on the Zen and 14nm process and was released in 2017.

The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X marks yet another blast from Team AMD, ramping up the intensity of the AMD vs Intel processor war. Still, though, there’s more than just core counts when it comes to a mainstream processor, as single-core performance needs to be on point, especially if you’re hoping to play the best PC games.

Now, we're asking ourselves whether or not the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X finally dethrones the Core i7-8700K as the de facto ruler of the mainstream processors. Ultimately, it depends: the Ryzen 7 2700X doesn't reach the same single-core performance as Intel, but we're starting to see more games adopt multi-threaded CPUs, so that doesn't matter as much.

AMD Ryzen 7 2nd Generation, and the Zen+ architecture itself, is notable because it leads 12nm processors to the mainstream for the first time. But, there’s a lot more going on under the hood than just a smaller manufacturing node.

Increased IPC improvements, along with the massive turbo boost of 4.3GHz mean that even in single core performance – long a weak link of AMD’s processors – comes within reaching distance of rival chips.

Unfortunately, this doesn’t quite translate to as strong of a single-core performance, even if AMD is closer than it’s ever been to matching Intel core for core. In our single-core GeekBench and Cinebench tests, the Ryzen 7 2700X scored a 4850 and 177, respectively. This is definitely a huge leap over the Ryzen 7 1700X, but it’s slower than the Core i7-8700K, which scored a 5330 and 208 in the same tests. But, that’s still not a huge difference, so the multi-core gains generally outweigh them.

Over the last couple years, AMD has been reaching for dominance in the desktop CPU world, and with the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, it's finally there.

AMD's Zen+ series has landed, upping the ante with Intel in its high-stakes game for desktop PC market dominance with a well-rounded lineup of new chips that push mainstream platforms to higher core counts and more raw compute than we've ever seen. As a result, Intel's commanding presence in the enthusiast space is threatened in a way we haven't seen in over a decade.

The Ryzen 7 2700X takes the basic ingredients of the Zen+ microarchitecture, which brings an average of 15% more instructions per cycle (IPC) throughput, and 12nm process and melds them into a high-performance chip that is impressive across our test suite, especially when we factor in the competitive pricing, backward compatibility with most AM4 socket motherboards, unlocked overclocking features, and bundled cooler.

As we've seen, gaming remains an advantage for Intel, so if squeezing out every last frame is all you care about, Intel's processors are a good choice. Much of that performance advantage will be less noticeable when gaming at higher resolutions, or if you pair the processors with a lesser graphics card.

Out of the box, the Ryzen 7 2700X is a better all-arounder than the Core i7-8700K and offers incrementally higher performance than its downstream counterpart. The bundled cooler reduces platform costs, and a wide array of motherboards offers plenty of choices for builders.

AMD Ryzen 7 2 Generation is finally here, and the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X might just be the poster child for what this generation of processors has in store for consumers. Sure, it might have stuck with the 8-core, 16-thread setup, which it inherited from its predecessor, the Ryzen 7 1700X. However, with the new 12nm manufacturing process, it delivers a far better performance at lower power consumption.

This decision to 12nm has brought a beefy 15% boost to IPC (instructions per clock) performance. Effectively, compared to a Ryzen 7 1-Generation processor at the same clock speed, you will get a straight 15% increase in performance. That’s not big enough to be evident in day-to-day workloads, but it does still mean something.

What this all means is that the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X is an absolute beast when it comes to multi-threaded workloads, especially at this price point. If you're counting on doing some video editing or compiling one hell of an Excel spreadsheet, you're going to see firsthand a performance boost with the Ryzen 7 2700X.

AMD has been having some trouble as of late which has made it even harder to compete with the incoming wave of Core i7 processors. That has forced the chip maker to be a little more creative and make do with their current product lines. Today we have the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X on hand, which in itself isn’t anything new. It’s basically a refreshed Ryzen 7 1700X with a clock speed boost. We say basically because it’s not a straight refresh however, there’s another change.

Today we’ll be taking a closer look at the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 8-core desktop processor that was released in Apr 2018. AMD offers the Ryzen 7 2700X without integrated graphics. It runs $329 shipped and is ideal for those that plan on using it a system with a dedicated graphics card.

One of the nice things about the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X processors is that the retail boxed models come with a CPU cooler. So, you can pick something like the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X up for $329 and don’t need to spend any extra money on CPU cooling.

The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X retail boxed processor comes with the traditional ‘pancake’ CPU cooler. Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done on this processor which is rated at 105W TDP. You do not need to have an aftermarket cooling solution unless you want to.

The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X seems to be a decent performing chip that is readily available for $329 at your favorite retailer. The main competition for this processor is the Core i7-8700K 6-Core unlocked desktop processor with Intel UHD Graphics 630 graphics ($395 shipped).

Now the biggest question is can AMD’s Ryzen 7 processor play games? The answer is simply yes as it got a respectable gaming score of 88% in our benchmarks.

Regardless of those external factors, the Ryzen 7 2700X proves it has the chops to be your main gaming system and a just as effective media creation platform – two things that are becoming intrinsically connected in this age of live-streaming, eSports and uploading gameplay videos.

The Ryzen 7 2700X clocks up to 4.3Ghz just as it promises on the box, and with AMD’s software you can take one of the cores all the way up to 4.4GHz. However, don’t expect to get much beyond that without seriously upgrading your cooling solution and manually tweaking voltages behind the operating system level.

There’s a saying that two heads are better than one and, well, 8-cores are better than 6. The extra processing power of the Ryzen 7 2700X puts Intel’s processors to shame, including both its closest competitor and a much higher-spec part.

That said, to squeeze out all the potential of this surprisingly potent high-end chip, you’ll want (and need) to splurge on an enthusiast-grade X370, X470, X570 motherboard.

Fresh from a successful roll-out of mainstream Ryzen 7 CPUs, AMD's attack on Intel now extends down into the high-end with its Ryzen 7 2700X processors, which the company is making available as of Apr 2018.

Right out of the gate, Ryzen 7 should sell for $329, going up against Intel's almost-$395 Core i7-8700K. In threaded workloads, the 8-core Ryzen 7 should enjoy an advantage against Intel's 6-core models. Of course, AMD doesn't give you integrated graphics like Intel does, but for enthusiasts building cheap gaming PCs, it isn't much of a draw anyway.

Like all other Pinnacle Ridge chips, the Ryzen 7-series CPUs drop into any Socket AM4 motherboard. But most will find a home on boards equipped with the A320 chipset, which has provisions for overclocking and offers plenty of connectivity options. Unlike Intel, AMD plans to utilize its current socket until 2020, so upgrading to future models shouldn't require a new motherboard.

Which GPU to Pick for AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

Below is a comparison of all graphics cards average FPS performance (using an average of 80+ games at ultra quality settings), combined with the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X.

Graphics Card Price Cost Per Frame Avg 1080p Avg 1440p Avg 4K
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24GB $ 1,499 $ 6.9 215.8 FPS
193.3 FPS
125.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB $ 699 $ 3.7 188 FPS
168.5 FPS
109.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB $ 499 $ 3.5 143.8 FPS
128.9 FPS
83.7 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN RTX 24GB $ 2,499 $ 18.9 132.1 FPS
122.2 FPS
79.9 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB $ 1,299 $ 10.1 128.6 FPS
119 FPS
77.7 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB $ 699 $ 6 116.7 FPS
106.9 FPS
69.5 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN V 12GB $ 2,999 $ 26.8 111.8 FPS
103.5 FPS
69 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 8GB $ 699 $ 6.3 110.3 FPS
100 FPS
64.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB $ 759 $ 7.3 103.4 FPS
95.4 FPS
62 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB $ 499 $ 4.9 102.7 FPS
92.1 FPS
59.7 FPS
NVIDIA TITAN Xp 12GB $ 1,199 $ 11.8 101.3 FPS
92.1 FPS
61.2 FPS
AMD Radeon VII 16GB $ 699 $ 6.9 101.3 FPS
91.4 FPS
58.4 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB $ 399 $ 4 98.7 FPS
89 FPS
56.7 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 8GB $ 499 $ 5.1 97.4 FPS
86 FPS
56.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB $ 400 $ 4.3 92.2 FPS
80.1 FPS
51.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5700 8GB $ 349 $ 3.9 90.5 FPS
81.6 FPS
52 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB $ 499 $ 5.7 87.8 FPS
78 FPS
49.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB $ 350 $ 4 86.7 FPS
73.7 FPS
46.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT 6GB $ 279 $ 3.3 85.3 FPS
76.3 FPS
48.5 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 295X2 4GB $ 1,499 $ 18.2 82.3 FPS
72.1 FPS
49 FPS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB $ 499 $ 6.1 82.1 FPS
74 FPS
47.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB $ 409 $ 5 81.4 FPS
72.3 FPS
46 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB $ 999 $ 12.6 79.1 FPS
69.4 FPS
44.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB $ 279 $ 3.6 77.4 FPS
68.8 FPS
43.8 FPS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB $ 399 $ 5.2 76.9 FPS
69.2 FPS
44.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB $ 399 $ 5.3 74.9 FPS
65.9 FPS
41.7 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB $ 229 $ 3.1 73 FPS
64.9 FPS
41.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB $ 649 $ 9.4 68.8 FPS
60.8 FPS
38.7 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB $ 220 $ 3.2 68.7 FPS
61 FPS
38.9 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 590 8GB $ 279 $ 4.3 65.2 FPS
56.2 FPS
35 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 FURY X 4GB $ 649 $ 10.4 62.5 FPS
57.8 FPS
37.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4GB $ 160 $ 2.7 59.8 FPS
53 FPS
33.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB 8GB $ 199 $ 3.4 59.3 FPS
51.1 FPS
31.8 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB $ 549 $ 9.3 59 FPS
51.6 FPS
33.1 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB $ 229 $ 4 57.8 FPS
49.8 FPS
30.8 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 Nano 4GB $ 649 $ 11.4 56.9 FPS
51.7 FPS
33.6 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN BLACK 6GB $ 999 $ 18.1 55.1 FPS
47.8 FPS
32 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 FURY 4GB $ 549 $ 10.2 53.7 FPS
48.6 FPS
31.2 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB $ 254 $ 4.7 53.6 FPS
46.6 FPS
29.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 4GB 4GB $ 169 $ 3.2 53.1 FPS
45.9 FPS
28.5 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 390X 8GB $ 429 $ 8.3 51.7 FPS
46.7 FPS
30.1 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB $ 170 $ 3.3 50.9 FPS
44.3 FPS
28.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB $ 329 $ 6.6 50 FPS
43.1 FPS
28.6 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB $ 400 $ 8.2 48.6 FPS
43.4 FPS
28.4 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 390 8GB $ 329 $ 6.8 48.3 FPS
42.6 FPS
25.9 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB $ 169 $ 3.5 47.7 FPS
42 FPS
26.2 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GB $ 149 $ 3.3 45.6 FPS
40.1 FPS
25.5 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB $ 179 $ 4.2 42.5 FPS
37.7 FPS
23.9 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 380X 4GB $ 229 $ 6.4 35.8 FPS
31.4 FPS
20.4 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 285 2GB $ 249 $ 7.8 32.1 FPS
28.2 FPS
17.3 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 380 2GB $ 199 $ 6.2 31.9 FPS
28 FPS
17.3 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB $ 169 $ 5.4 31.4 FPS
27.7 FPS
17.6 FPS
AMD Radeon R9 280 3GB $ 279 $ 9 31.1 FPS
27.6 FPS
16.5 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB $ 199 $ 6.5 30.7 FPS
26.8 FPS
16.9 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 3GB $ 169 $ 6.3 26.8 FPS
23.3 FPS
14.6 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 560 4GB $ 99 $ 4 24.7 FPS
21.3 FPS
13.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 2GB $ 159 $ 6.5 24.3 FPS
20.9 FPS
13.6 FPS
AMD Radeon R7 370 2GB $ 149 $ 6.3 23.8 FPS
19.6 FPS
12.8 FPS
AMD Radeon R7 265 2GB $ 149 $ 6.3 23.6 FPS
19 FPS
12.4 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 460 4GB $ 140 $ 6.4 21.9 FPS
18.9 FPS
11.9 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB $ 149 $ 7.1 21.1 FPS
16.2 FPS
10.7 FPS
AMD Radeon RX 550 2GB $ 79 $ 4.6 17.3 FPS
15 FPS
9.4 FPS
NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 2GB $ 79 $ 4.8 16.5 FPS
14.3 FPS
8.6 FPS

Related Discussions and Issues

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AleX85_Off_LEL August 07, 2020

RTX 2070 +R7 2700x low fps. Help

Hey folks, I build my pc like 8 months ago and Im very confused. On games like Far Cry 5 I can get only around 50-60 FPS. Then on GTA V, in singleplayer I can get only 50-60fps which is in my opinion very low for my pc. Then on RUST similar thing getting around 50-60FPS. Details are on very high at both games. I tried DDU, reinstalling windows, but nothing works. I think it could be maybe my ram which is one stick 16gb 3200mhz. V-sync is off. It weird because my friend has almost the same setup, except he has Rx vega 56, and hes getting more FPS.(He using single stick too). Thanks for help!



Mb:Asus x470-F gaming

Cpu:Ryzen 7 2700x

Gpu: Rtx 2070

Ram: DDR4 1X16GB 3200MHZ

Psu:650w GOLD

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djternan August 07, 2020

You should really be using 2 sticks of RAM. You're leaving a lot of performance on the table by having half the memory bandwidth.

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AleX85_Off_LEL August 07, 2020

If i buy one more ram, how much fps it will incerase?Btw thanks for reply

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PsychsAndKnots August 07, 2020

Alright, so it isnt an issue, it is as expected. I have the same graphics card and a r5 2600x cpu and I get about 40 to 50 on max settings for those games, so I don't think it's an issue

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AleX85_Off_LEL August 07, 2020

Hello, but I still think it is little bit weird, because of my frined with exact same setup expect he has rx 56 vega

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midelro August 01, 2020

Help Choosing MB and RAM for Ryzen 7 2700X

I need help choosing MB and RAM for the 2700X. Friends told me that RAM speed with Ryzen CPU is very important but I don´t know the compatibility between the CPU-MB-RAM and definitely don´t want to mess this up.

Many Thanks!

Bellow is what I have looked to:


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DrZedHere August 01, 2020

You can look up the speed specifications for each part, but since I’m bored I did it for you lol

CPU: System Memory Specification 2933MHz

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-2700x

Motherboard: 4 x DIMM, max. 64GB, DDR4 3200(O.C.) / 3000(O.C.)/2800(O.C)/2666/2400/2133 MHz, un-buffered memory

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_B450-PLUS/E14214_PRIME_B450-PLUS_UM_WEB_060418.pdf

This means your CPU can work with a RAM at a max speed of 2933MHz. Your motherboard can work with all those other speeds listed above.

If you got your 3200 MHz RAM that you show, it would only operate at 2933, because your CPU won’t be able to keep up and force the RAM to slow down

Hope this makes sense

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midelro August 01, 2020

It does! Thanks!

Should I look to lower speed RAM or this will work out of the box?

Thank you

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Voornaz August 01, 2020

Daddy get b550, you won't regret it, 16gb 3600 black g skill 😗

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midelro August 01, 2020

B550 is out of my price range unfortunately. Planning to keep this CPU for 5 years or so tho

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CyberKnight97 July 16, 2020

2700x CPU w/ Wraith Stealth is getting rather toasty. Please send help!

It is getting hot up in here and in the worst possible way. I recently procured the Blaze 2 (RTX 2060 Super variant) from Skytech rather then building my own. I have been since making my own little upgrades mainly storage and fans for increased airflow. I noticed while gaming (Rust max graphics was the biggest culprit) that my CPU was getting rather toasty (@80-90 degrees). After looking into it some I found that it seems that Skytech sends the processor out with the inferior Wraith stealth rather then prism. I want to know what my options are to fix this? I can buy the prism "new", I can replace it completely with a new cooler (but my computer is a micro case), or I can pray my CPU does not burnnnn. Please advise on the best course of action?

P.S. There was also one sensor on the board that was well over 100 degrees (curious where that is).

SKU:

ST-BLAZE-II-2700X-2060SUPER

CPU:

AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 8-Core 3.7 GHz (4.3 GHz Max Boost)

Case:

Skytech Blaze II Tempered Glass Case

CPU Cooler:

Wraith Stealth Cooler

Fans:

3x Skytech ARGB, Dual Ring Fans

Motherboard:

B450M

RAM:

16GB DDR4 (2x 8GB) 3000 MHz

Graphics:

Nvidia RTX 2060 Super 8GB GDDR6

Primary Hard Drive:

500GB SSD

Power Supply:

550 Watt 80 Plus Bronze

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DudSteeple July 13, 2020

also is it really getting hot or just the readings show its hot?

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NorthStarPC July 13, 2020

Well, you are running on a Wraith Stealth. I’d just buy a Hyper 212.

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CyberKnight97 July 14, 2020

Is that comparable or better then a Prism stock? Also it looks a little clunky on Amazon don't know if it will fit in the smaller case without disrupting airflow or top fans. But thank you for the suggestion I am looking into it :)

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Zeekster2517 July 10, 2020

Lowering the Cpu voltage will help with temperatures. Some motherboards cpu voltage run too high when set to auto.

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DudSteeple July 09, 2020

so your cpu or gpu is getting hot? Did you apply new coolingpaste?

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CyberKnight97 July 14, 2020

CPU is getting pretty warm GPU seems fine. Reading are showing it getting hot in hw monitor when under load.

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SpoKuntDreamSeattle July 21, 2020

HELP! I don't know what PC chassis to buy for this: ryzen 2700x (might go to 3700x), a wraith cooler, msi b540 pro max motherboard, 500 gb ssd, and 3600 mhz ddr4 ram, gtx 1660 super

I am considering an upgrade to the 3700x if I can cool it properly. I am not sure what to look for in a gaming case. This is the part I am having trouble with. I can buy cooking fans on ali express at a new user deal of $1 for the fan and $1 for the connecting cords. Im not sure what I'll need.

I'll be using this for iRacing mostly

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coololly July 21, 2020

I am considering an upgrade to the 3700x if I can cool it properly

A 3700X is easier to cool than a 2700X. And comes with the wraith prism cooler, just like the 2700X

Phanteks P400A is a good choice

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LemonRindSour July 21, 2020

If you’re gaming I’d go with the 3700X. For the case I’d recommend high airflow for both lower temperatures and noise. The Phanteks P400A is a great option.

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SpoKuntDreamSeattle July 21, 2020

What about this one that I found on newegg.com.. https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16811353139?ignorebbr=1

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SpoKuntDreamSeattle July 21, 2020

Am I going to need a power supply for anything? Does the motherboard already come with a power supply?

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Ajagarra August 09, 2020

Ryzen 7 2700X vs Ryzen 5 3600 [Stream PC Help]

Hey guys!

I need some help on deciding which CPU I should go for and some additional questions about the motherboard itself.
I am planning on mostly playing games including upcoming ones and streaming them as well. Also planning on starting to learn how to make video edits so I can upload to YT. My current setup looks like this: (all parts will be brand new)
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 / Ryzen 7 2700X
MB: Gygabite B450M DS3H (I want to know if it will need a bios update to support 3600)

GPU: Radeon XFX RX 580 8GB GDDR5 258 bit XXX Edition
Ram: 4x8GB 2667 Mhz
PSU: 600W deepcool
Case: Matrex 50 with 3 front + 1 rear fan
SSD: 250GB NVM.E M.2 Kingston
HDD: 2TB Barracuda 256MB cache 7200 RPM

Please explain which CPU you would pick, i know the multi-cores on the 2700X will aid in streaming, although the 2-15 lower FPS and older architecture are worrying me as it may fuck up when newer games come out and I don't plan on changing it in the next few years. Playing and streaming at 720p preferably high/ultra graphics on games.
Also I would like to know what you guys think about this setup!
Thanks in advance and enjoy your day/night!

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narfcake August 09, 2020

If you're going to stream, Nvidia is a better way to go due to its NVENC.

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Ajagarra August 09, 2020

Will keep that in mind for a future upgrade but I've already bought the RTX 580 as it was discounted at 120$ instead of 300$. Will the difference be that big ? I mean the GPU itself is a beast

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Undercover_Terrorist August 09, 2020

If they were the same price i'd go for the 2700x. I'd also get another motherboard because that one is garbage. (sorry) You could look up benchmarks for the games you would want to play and rendering time and overall usability in your editing software you would want to use. The second gen ryzen is an older architecture that's true, but the new xbox and playstation will have 8c16t just saying. Just look at horizon zero dawn already, it's getting optimized for even 12 and 16 cores now. And about that motherboard. It only has one fan header. You could always use a splitter but there is so many other choices. If you are worried your motherboard of choice won't support ryzen 3rd gen It should have a little sign that says: ryzen 3000 series ready, either on the box or in the description of the product. You could also visit gigabyte.com or whatever their url is to check.

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Ajagarra August 09, 2020

Actually the 2700x is 30$ cheaper than the 3600 lol. I'm kind of bad with motherboards what do you mean with one fan header? It can only support 1 fan being plugged at a time or? Also even if we put aside the older architecture, the 2700x is getting average 10 less FPS on 2018 games than the 3600, and i dont plan on changing the cpu in the near few years so would it be able to hold me for several years (2-3) on the newest games plus streaming them at let's say high/ultra graphics 720p ?
Also what motherboard would you suggest for around 80-90$ max, I highly prefer it to have 4 slots for RAM as the difference in 2x8 and 1x16 is ridicilous in my country..

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Ajagarra August 08, 2020

Ryzen 7 2700X vs Ryzen 5 3600 [Stream PC Help]

Hey guys!

I need some help on deciding which CPU I should go for and some additional questions about the motherboard itself.
I am planning on mostly playing games including upcoming ones and streaming them as well. Also planning on starting to learn how to make video edits so I can upload to YT. My current setup looks like this: (all parts will be brand new)
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 / Ryzen 7 2700X
MB: Gygabite B450M DS3H (I want to know if it will need a bios update to support 3600)

GPU: Radeon XFX RX 580 8GB GDDR5 258 bit XXX Edition
Ram: 4x8GB 2667 Mhz
PSU: 600W deepcool
Case: Matrex 50 with 3 front + 1 rear fan
SSD: 250GB NVM.E M.2 Kingston
HDD: 2TB Barracuda 256MB cache 7200 RPM

Please explain which CPU you would pick, i know the multi-cores on the 2700X will aid in streaming, although the 2-15 lower FPS and older architecture are worrying me as it may fuck up when newer games come out and I don't plan on changing it in the next few years. Playing and streaming at 720p preferably high/ultra graphics on games.
Also I would like to know what you guys think about this setup!
Thanks in advance and enjoy your day/night!

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Swervino August 08, 2020

i highly doubt a 2700x will cost you 15 frames over the 3600. but if i were you, i would get an nvidia equivalent gpu and go with the 3600. reason being is nvidia gpus have nvenc which will significantly help you stream

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BigWooper August 08, 2020

Agree with this. NVIDIA are better for streaming

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Ajagarra August 08, 2020

Thank you for the tip but the only problem is that the GPU is already bought, will keep in mind in future that nvidia is better for streams. Although the 2700x really does cost around 15 frames on some games from what i've seen on youtube and that's on games that came out 2-3 years ago, unsure how secure I feel about games that will come let's say next year.
I forgot about the prices, 3600 is ~200$ and 2700x is ~160$.

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UntangledBagel August 08, 2020

Your motherboard will need a bios update to support a r5 3600.

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Ravetom123 July 12, 2020

Help how do I get my ryzen 2700x to work on my ryzen 1st gen motherboard

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theknyte July 10, 2020

You need to update the BIOS on the Mobo. You'll need a placeholder 1st Gen Ryzen mounted in order to update however. So, if you don't have one, you may have to borrow one. AMD was giving out "loaner" chips a few years back for the purpose, but I don't know if they're still doing it.

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shpydar July 15, 2020

yup this. I had to go through this when I built my brother-in-law a new PC earlier this year, so the program is still available.

You need to call AMD support and tell them the problem. You will have to take a clear picture of the CPU you are trying to install that shows the serial number and model, They will then send you an AMD Boot Kit (literally a low end AMD CPU and compatible heat sink).

Takes about 3 business days to come, you then use the old CPU to boot to your MOBO BIOS settings, then you update the BIOS on your MOBO and then uninstall the low end CPU and install your higher end CPU and then it should work.

You then have to ship back the Boot Kit to AMD or they will charge you for that CPU.

Just know, they don't provide thermal paste so you will need a tube to swap out the CPU's with their heat sinks, make sure you clean all the thermal paste off your CPU's with a lint free cloth and 99% isopropyl alcohol before attempting to install the boot kit, and then reinstall your new CPU, and then clean the boot kit before sending it back.

Gamer's Nexus did a video on this process which I found useful.

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Puiish July 21, 2020

Low GPU Usage All Games RTX 2080 Ryzen 7 2700x Please Help

SPECS:

RTX 2080

Ryzen 7 2700x

Asrock B450m Steel Legend

16GB 3200Mhz Ddr4 Ram

250Gb SSD

1 Tb Hard drive

In most of my games my GPU usage is between 30-75% causing me to run games anywhere between 45-100 frames on my 144hz monitor.

Things I have tried: Reinstalling windows, DDU all my drivers, disabling HPET in device manager, Forcing PCIE Gen 3, enabling precision boost, water cooling cpu with aio, Ultimate performance mode, putting rtx 2080 as OpenGl rendering GPU, preferring maximum performance, disabling synthetic windows 10 timers, updating drivers, updating windows, disabling full screen optimization,updating bios, and many more.

Under load my CPU is 61c and idles around 39c

My GPU idles around 45c and under load it is around 80c ( I know this is high but I've had previous gpu with much lower temps have the same results with GPU usage).

I have replaced the motherboard, PSU, GPU, RAM, SSD, and the HDD.

I'm hoping I will not have to replace my CPU but if that is necessary I will do it.

Since I stream I was thinking about upgrading to a 3900x since I wouldn't need a new mobo or i9 9900k if and only when it is necessary.

Any and all help is appreciated I have been struggling with this issue for a little over a year now.

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makerteen3d July 21, 2020

Whats your cpu usage at? What games are you playing?

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Puiish July 21, 2020

Cpu usage is around 20-60 percent I play gta, death stranding, Jedi fallen order, destiny 2, red dead redemption 2, and many more .

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WaleedBari July 21, 2020

This is what I found from an old forum on LinusTechTips.com :

- Set 'Power management mode' in NVidia control panel to 'Prefer Maximum Performance'.

- Enable the High Performance power plan in Windows.

- Ensure VSync is off in-game and in your NVidia control panel.

- Use a program such as MSi Afterburner to max out your power and thermal limits.

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Puiish July 21, 2020

I have tried those but it has not helped thank you

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bapt337 July 26, 2020

i experimented gpu bottleneck in gta V, with ryzen 3600 and 1080ti, most of the times in full lobby, more player there is in online session, more cpu is used, more bottleneck. just try a graphic benchmark like 3d mark, if your gpu is full used, then its the problem is not your system, but bad optimzed games. also what resolution and refresh rate you play?

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Puiish July 27, 2020

I play 1080p 144hz and yeah 3dmark makes my gpu work at 99% so should I upgrade my cpu ?

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Regev July 27, 2020
Which of these is the best CPU+cooler+motherboard combo?
Hey guys!

So, I got a 1TB NVMe, a 700W Platinum+ SFX-L, and a kit of 32GB 3200. Thanks to your advice, I was gonna get the i9-9900 (at 50% off from a family member working for Intel), but when I went to find an ITX motherboard the only one I found in my country that can sustain an i9 is the Phantom, which costs $258. I also read that I'd need to buy a cooler cause the Intel 9th gen stock one sucks, so it's another $59 for the L12S.

I'm reconsidering options before ordering. Here are possible combinations I found (all with mITX motherboards). I do not need a video card at all, it's purely for productivity uses (lots of text, very heavy browser use, web developing, and some programming). When necessary, I factored in the cheapest 1030 that I found. Also, I used the stock cooler (hope it's enough) on all builds (except the 9900). Listed in order of price:

  • Ryzen 5 3400G = $271 (B350) or $301 (B450)
  • i3 10100 = $300 (B460) or $336 (Z490)
  • i5 10400 = $390 (B460) or $426 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700 = $396 (B350) or $427 (B450) or $497 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600 = $402 (B350) or $419 (B450) or $493 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10500 = $412 (B460) or $448 (Z490)
  • i5 10600 = $427 (B460) or $463 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700X = $430 (B350) or $461 (B450) or $531 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600X = $432 (B350) or $463 (B450) or $533 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10600K = $482 (B460) or $518 ( Z490)
  • Ryzen 5 3600XT = $490 (B350) or $521 (B450) or $591 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 7 3700X = $529 (B350) or $560 (B450) or $630 (X470/B550)
  • i7 10700 = $568 (B460) or $604 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 3800X = $574 (B350) or $605 (B450, $675 (X470/B550)
  • i9 9900 = $590 (50% off on CPU, pricey Z390 + Noctua L12S)
  • i7 10700K = $628 (B460) or $664 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 3800XT = $653 (B350) or $684 (B450) or $754 (X470/B550)
  • Which configuration gives the best bang for the buck for the uses I listed (without suffering any productivity setback)? Still the i9?

    Thanks <3
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    Karadjgne December 26, 2012
    Things take time. It takes a cpu a certain amount of time to render anything, game frame, web page etc. A stronger cpu can do things in less time as it has more available resources to work with. A 3700x might render a page in 1 second, a 3400G might take 2 seconds. To a cpu that's a huge improvement, massive really. To you, you blinked and it was over with. Can't really say just exactly how much of a difference there is on such a small scale. But when it comes to large scale, that's a different story. Play gta5 on a 3400G and 3700x, there's a fps difference, then add in streaming and the 4 cores of the 3400G just got swamped and fps drops like a bad habit. The 8/16 of the 3700x doesn't even blink.

    Mmorpgs online are even worse. All that AI can be seriously detrimental to fps. I play swtor and in single player ultra have no issues on an i7-3770K with getting 90fps+. 8man op and I'm into 60-90fps range, 16man op and I'm averaging 30fps with all cpu details disabled/min and a 24man world boss fight is miserable at 5-10fps and everything disabled. Just way too much, too intensive, too cpu challenging for even a 8thread i7 at 4.6GHz to handle. 3400G will be far worse as it has no Lcache and not nearly the same resources, even if it does have better IPC. Fastest runner in the world is useless if he has a ball and chain around 1 ankle. Make him stronger, make the chain longer and he'll just lick it up and run.

    B450m-H is a value motherboard. More tailored towards the 3600 or lesser cpus. It'll handle a 3700x just fine under normal circumstances, but Ryzens are dynamic cpus, they boost according to voltages, temps, loads. With no heatsink the VRM's will run hotter and will limit the boosting ability of the cpu. They won't overheat, but instead of seeing nice high boosts, you'll be relegated to more minimal boosts. The cpu will protect itself and the motherboard from excessive power draws.
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    tybarreto34 July 23, 2020
    Moving Windows 10
    Hello! I recently found myself with an extra SSD and decided to slap it in the gf's computer as she doesn't have an SSD. I am hoping to get some help on moving a copy of Windows 10 from her old HDD to the SSD. The SSD has been used in another computer but has been cleared off. I don't know if that will make a difference at all. All of her hardware is staying the same just adding in the SSD. I have heard of issues moving windows on the same motherboard due to legacy boot issues. I am assuming all I need to do is wipe her current drive and do a fresh install with the SSD. I just wanted to double check to make sure I have the right steps as I'd rather not have to buy another copy of win10 or wipe her drive for no reason. Not sure it matters but the following is her relevant parts.
    CPU: Ryzen 2700x
    Mobo: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2tb
    SSD: Crucial MX500
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    USAFRet March 16, 2013
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    Specific steps for a successful clone operation:
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    Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
    Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration , if a Samsung SSD)
    Power off
    Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
    Power up
    Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
    Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive

    If you are going from a smaller drive to a larger, by default, the target partition size will be the same as the Source. You probably don't want that
    You can manipulate the size of the partitions on the target (larger)drive
    Click on "Cloned Partition Properties" , and you can specifiy the resulting partition size, to even include the whole thing

    Click the 'Clone' button
    Wait until it is done
    When it finishes, power off
    Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD
    This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD
    Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
    Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
    If good, continue the power up

    It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
    Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

    If it works, and it should, all is good.

    Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe all partitions on it.
    This will probably require the commandline diskpart function, and the clean command.

    Ask questions if anything is unclear.
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    solrac0192 July 19, 2020
    AB350m cross compatible with ryzen 1st and second gen (ryzen 7 2700x)
    I have recently purchased a Ryzen 7 2700x that has bent pins with the expectation of fixing it and making sure it would work before buying a new motherboard.
    I could try fixing the CPU pins, and then use my friends motherboard ( AB350m gaming 3 micro atx ) to make sure the CPU works.
    (this is so I wont spend money on a motherboard and then come to find that I cant fix the CPU.
    My question is that if the CPU were to work once I fixed the pins, will I be able to put it into my friends motherboard without having to update the bios?
    Then after I see that it has worked (hopefully) will they then be able to put their first gen ryzen (ryzen 5 1600x) without any problems
    Thanks so much
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    CountMike October 31, 2015
    That question took only 10 seconds to find answer for. It's compatible but only with new BIOS version F20 and up https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-Gaming-3-rev-1x/support#support-cpu
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    MassRelay July 13, 2020
    B450 Mobo: help me choose
    Hi there!

    So, I'm upgrading my PC from AM3+ to AM4 (yeah, kinda late to the party, but oh well ) and here's what's inside:
    CPU: Ryzen 2700x
    GPU: RX580
    Memory: 32Gb kit, haven't bought yet, but kinda leaning to Ballistix (there are only Crucial, HyperX and Patriot in stores right now)
    Case: Deepcool Kendomen

    The problem is, there are only so many mobos in stock at the moment:
    • ASUS STRIX
    • ASUS TUF in all shapes and sizes and I'm kinda reluctant about them
    • MSI Tomahawk MAX
    • MSI Gaming PLUS MAX
    • MSI MORTAR MAX
    All of them fit into my budget, I just got a bit lost. Also, I haven't had an MSI mobo in ages, too, and I have no idea what to expect of them. (Also, an fx-8350 owner in me is screeching What if it's too hot or too small OMG how will I ever cool it all!11 )

    Thanks in advance for all your suggestions
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    Math Geek October 15, 2014
    the mortar has a usb-c port while the gaming plus has a couple rgb strip headers in case you ever decide to go there. about the only major difference i see.

    if neither one makes a difference to you, then flip a coin

    for the same money i'd get the gaming plus for the extra slots on it, but otherwise i don't see much of a difference.

    personally though, they are both overpriced to me. i got a gigabit b450 auros pro wifi for $119 but that one seems to be impossible to get anymore. i don't see an extra $100 worth or value in either of those boards.

    i understand the out of stock problem. so if you want it now, you'll have to get more than you need if its in stock.
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    GroovyOs July 13, 2020
    Green Screen in Certain Games (Newly Built Computer)
    Greetings Tom's Hardware Community,

    My little brother built a new computer for me, yet for some reason I can only play certain games (League of Legends, Octopath, Evil Within 2), while other games (CoD Warzone, Dota 2, AC Odyssey) green screen with a beeping sound or no sound. After the green screen I have to manually restart which brings me back to the same login background picture (usually it changes after every restart, but the green green comes back to the same background).

    I am not sure what is wrong since I never built a computer before. He says all the parts should be great and there could be a defective part (that we can't return since we lost the box). He tried getting a new power supply, yet that didn't fix the issue either. There has also been a few blue screens with a stop code: VIDEO TDR FAILURE; or, VIDEO SCHEDULER INTERNAL ERROR. The blue screens occur infrequently.

    The computer specs:

    GPU: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor
    Motherboard: ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING (Rev 1.xx)
    RAM: 16.0 GB

    Is there any other info I can send to help with this issue?
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    Gerald6049 June 09, 2020
    Do you have another systems ? If yes, try to check the GPU, if the green screen still appear, I would recommend to RMA.
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    D4rkness July 12, 2020
    Help, my Pc keeps turning off by itself and i dont know why. (Temps are fine btw)
    CPU: 2700x
    Mobo: Asus Prime X-470 prime pro
    Ram: 32gb ddr4 @ 3200mhz

    Today i got my hands on some new ram, my previous set was a 2x8gb ddr4 2133mhz set from corsair. my new ram was automatically set to 2133mhz in the UEFI, so i overclocked it to 3200mhz since i knew my sticks and mobo supported the overclock. I’d be on my pc then each 5 to 10 minutes my pc would turn itself off, and it cant be the temps since i was at 45C so idk, pls help
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    Darkbreeze June 24, 2014
    So that model is CMK32GX4M2B3200C16.

    That memory kit is not listed as compatible with your motherboard on the Corsair memory finder utility.
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    Dudersaurus July 12, 2020
    Why does my system bluescreen - every single day?
    I'll start with system specs, i guess

    470 Aorus Ultra Gaming motherboard (bios F6)
    AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor, 3700 Mhz
    32gb Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 @ 3200Mhz
    MSI Ventus 2080Ti RTX
    860 EVO 250gb SSD

    other addons
    Oculus Rift S
    Creative Stage Air under monitor bluetooth soundbar
    Razer black widow chroma v2 Keyboard
    tplink archer ax3000 wifi6/bt5 pcie adaptor

    Possibly other things i've missed, really not sure what you guys need.
    Im also in the fast ring of the insider preview



    So, the problem is an odd one.. when i turn on my pc, it WILL bluescreen (with a Driver Power State Failure) within the first 5 minutes of operation. I can force the problem to go away (until the next day) by forcing a system reset after the Aorus logo goes away.

    things ive noticed..
    when i turn on the pc, the razer synapse software doesnt seem to load - the lights on the keyboard dont light up. Also, the soundbar will say "searching for device to connect".. forcing a reset or waiting for the bluescreen then rebooting results in everything working fine... (on the second boot the system is more than happy being on for days without a crash, but turn it off for an hour or two and this bluescreen thing happens again.

    i thought it might have been an issue with the bluetooth connection so i bought the pcie card listed above and that didnt help.. i thought it was the gfx card, so i swapped out from a 1660Ti to the 2080Ti and still the same issues... i thought i might be the powersupply so i swapped that out too... nothing seems to work

    I dont know where to look from here so I thought I'd ask you amazing people if you had any ideas...
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    rgd1101 November 07, 2011
    why the old bios?
    make and model of the psu?
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    GameNetics July 06, 2020
    Power supplies under 150$ (AU)?
    im looking for a new psu thats around/under 150$ AU,



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    asus gtx 1060 turbo
    2x8gb g.skill
    b350m artic
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    helpstar December 25, 2012
    The only modular would be the cooler master in the list

    Semi modular would be the seasonic, which I would prefer because of it´s 10 year warranty
    J
    julienruc July 02, 2020
    NH-D15 vs. Dark Rock Pro 4
    Hi all,

    I'm planning on getting either one of these two coolers. Still hesitant on whether the price premium of the NH-D15 Chromax Black over the Pro 4 in my country is worth the 3 extra years in warranty. I also still need to check for RAM, Top Fan, and Case clearance and whether I need to get an extra mounting bracket.

    Although I'm more worried on whether my PSU can support them or not. I saw the Pro 4 having a 250w TDP and could not find this information on Noctua's website.

    My PSU is the Seasonic M12ii 620w Evo.

    Specs:
    2700X
    B450-F Strix
    2x8GB Trident Z RGB
    1060 6GB
    x1 NVMe
    x1 SSD
    x2 HDD 7,200rpm
    Fractal Design Meshify C
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    Phaaze88 December 30, 2016
    TDP has to do with the cpu, not the psu.

    I've been told that Noctua used to post TDP ratings, but stopped, and for good reason; they were misleading from both sides, although AMD's were actually closer to what they stated.
    It's more accurate to look up cpu, but not system, power consumption results - if available. Speaking of power: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-review,5571-12.html
    That aside, either is more than enough for your current cpu.

    I'd still give Noctua credit for having the more user-friendly mounting system.
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    Dragonex July 01, 2020
    ASUS ROG X570-E with a ryzen 7 2700x
    Yea i know its a bit overkill for the motherboard (looking to upgrade soonish) but was just wondering if it would work with the 2700x out of the box or would it require some bios tinkering, thank you in advance ^^
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    helpstar December 25, 2012
    if the BIOS is at least 704, it would be working without problems
    https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Strix-X570-E-Gaming/HelpDesk_CPU/

    if it´s 602, it could need a BIOS update to support the 2700X. But the motherboard supports BIOS flashback, so it wouldn´t be a real problem to update the BIOS without CPU support
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    p7r0x7 June 30, 2020
    Is my PSU good enough?
    I have a Seasonic FOCUS SGX-500.

    Is it enough for:
    ASUS B450-I
    Ryzen 7 2700X
    Zotac GTX 1080 Mini (the concern)
    WD SN500 2x NVMe SSD
    7200rpm 2.5in 1TB HDD and a
    5400rpm 2.5in 1TB HDD?
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    refillable November 15, 2011
    Yes it is good, if you want to be safe just don't overclock anything. Though, I wouldn't say that overclocking will overdraw power from the PSU anyway.
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    Chris David June 30, 2020
    Mixing different RAM sizes.
    So, this thread is to help my friend who wanted to be different, by joining Team RED when they were still on their way of making strides, but completely forgot to take note of the things he needed to do to get a Team RED build properly working.

    I'll list the specs first :

    Corsair TX650M 80+ Gold Certification
    ASUS Prime X-470 Prime Pro
    Ryzen 7 2700X @4GHz (Wraith Prism)
    G.Skill Trident Z CL16 3200MHz (1x16)
    Asus AMD RX Vega 64 ROG Strix 8GB (OC Edition)

    So there are the specs required for this thread.

    I was skeptical of his build being weaker as opposed to the rest of our squads builds, which were more or less unbalanced than his is (bad upgrade plans). He had help from another one of our friends, basically he went against all advice's and went on to make a series of bad decisions (i.e wait a month or two for the RTX cards to drop, either wait for 3000 series or invest in a 8700K, instead of flushing the money towards a expensive keyboard ; keep it aside for a aftermarket etc.)

    So, he already made a couple of mistakes:

    No aftermarket for a processor that runs hot
    No dual channel for a Ryzen
    Not taking full advantage of his board's ram frequency limit (3600 is the max limit, he opted for 3200)
    spend it on a vega 64 when there were better options


    Now, he's about to pull something that I can't really wrap my head around ie not be able to confirm whether its good or bad. Since I showed him benchmarks of a 2700X that utilizes Dual Channel, he's trying to pull money together for another ram kit to utilize the dual channel capacity, except he decided he was going to invest the same stick he already has, but in 8 Gigs as opposed to his current 16 gigs. I am not really sure about the effects of this cause I never seen someone try to pull a 1x16, 1x8 for the Dual Channel and i am not even sure if the dual channel will work because of different sizes. So i assume at least a limited group of people were to try something like that, would source their opinions on this and provide benchmarks on 2x8 DC vs 1x16-1x8 DC.

    tl;dr
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    Ferimer August 19, 2011
    Nah he wont have any issues whatsoever. It doesn't affect anything other than mixing ram sometimes doesn't always work. I.e from two different kits. But he won't see a dip in performance or an improvement at all really he will just have more RAM meaning he can run more processes in the back. If anything he will gain a slight performance to FPS because it's accessing the Dual Channel the size of ram doesn't really matter, it's his speeds, as long as he is using the same Speed and timings and latency then he will actual benefit from the Dual channeling of the board.

    Edit- Tell him just to save up for another 1x16gb instead.
    J
    julienruc June 29, 2020
    Balancing CPU Usage
    Hi all,

    I've personally gotten tired of the super loud Wraith Prism and decided to drop the stable 4.0Ghz OC on my 2700X. At least until I buy a new cooler that's much quieter.

    My aim is to achieve more balanced performance. This being a slower but quieter system while browsing and doing daily office workloads and the performance + fans to ramp up while I play some games as I usually wear headphones.

    I've reverted the Windows power plan to Balanced and used Ryzen master to set the Auto profile. I am getting different readings between HWMonitor, Ryzen Master, and Windows Task Manager.

    The average readings when idle on HWMonitor & Ryzen Master (which are both showing matching readings) indicates most of the cores being at 2.2Ghz, whilst jumping up and down between 2.0Ghz - 2.8Ghz. Nothing unusual here.
    However, I've noticed that 1 or 2 of the 8 cores are constantly jumping to 4.2/4.3Ghz. Additionally, these 1 or 2 jumping cores keep changing.
    i.e: sometimes core 2 will go up to 4.2Ghz. A few seconds later, it will go back down to 2.2Ghz, but instead, core 7 will shoot up to 4.3Ghz.... and so forth.
    As for Task Manager, the readings are showing a constant 3.4/3.5Ghz clock speed.

    Question 1: I'm guessing it's because Task Manager shows only 1 reading and therefore shows an average speed. Is this right?

    Question 2: Is it normal that 1 or 2 cores have a significantly higher clock speed of 4.2/4.3Ghz at all times?

    Question 3: Is it normal that the 1 or 2 higher-clocked cores keep changing?

    Question 4: Do you recommend alternative methods for me to achieve a more balance overclocking method?

    Thanks in advance for your time.