Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Bottleneck: RTX 3070 Analysis

Ryzen 5 3600X

Mid-range Desktop processor released in 2019 with 6 cores and 12 threads. With base clock at 3.8GHz, max speed at 4.4GHz, and a 95W power rating. Ryzen 5 3600X is based on the Matisse 7nm family and part of the Ryzen 5 series.

Core i5-9600K

Mid-range Desktop processor released in 2018 with 6 cores and 6 threads. With base clock at 3.7GHz, max speed at 4.6GHz, and a 95W power rating. Core i5-9600K is based on the Coffee Lake Refresh 14nm family and part of the Core i5 series.

Core i5-10600K

Mid-range Desktop processor released in 2020 with 6 cores and 12 threads. With base clock at 4.1GHz, max speed at 4.8GHz, and a 125W power rating. Core i5-10600K is based on the Comet Lake 14nm family and part of the Core i5 series.

Ryzen 7 3700X

High-end Desktop processor released in 2019 with 8 cores and 16 threads. With base clock at 3.6GHz, max speed at 4.4GHz, and a 65W power rating. Ryzen 7 3700X is based on the Matisse 7nm family and part of the Ryzen 7 series.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 - 1080p Bottleneck Analysis

Bottleneck depends on many factors, which include: the cpu, the gpu, and the game. Bottleneck Summary of Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Bottleneck: RTX 3070 Analysis based on the benchmark of6 games at 1080p using NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070:

CPU Average Bottleneck (Lower is better)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 17%
Intel Core i5-9600K 21.7%
Intel Core i5-10600K 13.1%
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 14.6%

Grand Theft Auto V - 1080p

Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Grand Theft Auto V - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS
Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Grand Theft Auto V - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS

Shadow of the Tomb Raider - 1080p

Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Shadow of the Tomb Raider - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS
Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Shadow of the Tomb Raider - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS

PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds - 1080p

Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS
Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS

Forza Horizon 4 - 1080p

Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Forza Horizon 4 - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS
Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Forza Horizon 4 - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS

Apex Legends - 1080p

Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Apex Legends - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS
Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Apex Legends - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS

Battlefield V - 1080p

Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Battlefield V - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS
Ryzen 5 3600X vs Core i5-9600K vs Core i5-10600K vs Ryzen 7 3700X Battlefield V - 1080p - RTX 3070 FPS

In an ideal world what we want to see is a nice slim 'fuzzy' line stretching from one end on the chart to the other. What we do not want to see are 'spikes'. This spikes are delays in frame time rendering and are where stuttering will occur if they go above a given threshold.

Random, thin spikes are not too much of an issue however should there be a block of spikes in close proximity to one another, especially if these spike jump quite high will likely be noticeable and interpreted as 'stutter'.

Using Frame Time Analysis as a means of measuring GPU performance is clearly a valuable tool. So much so that some would say it should replace the frames per second method of measuring performance. We would tend to agree because as previously stated, it is little point in having a GPU that can produce stupidly high framerates if the end product results in choppy gameplay. For gamers, frame time latency is clearly the better measurement as it is what 'gaming experience can be measured upon'.

Sure, a frametime graph can show you which is the faster card simply by it's length and thus the number of frames rendered over a given period but to get an accurate figure you would also have to calculate this yourself to gain an accurate, by the second average FPS figure. It's no good saying an entry level card has excellent frame time latency and then comparing it to a much faster (FPS) card which has a slower latency. IF both cards are below your own perceived level then you would obviously go with the faster card.

Related Discussions and Issues

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TwoHunnid July 12, 2020

Will a asus gtx 960 turbo 4gb bottleneck a ryzen 5 3600x too much?

Im building a second pc with some of my old parts. Will a asus gtx 960 turbo 4gb bottleneck a ryzen 5 3600x too much? 16gb of ram and an ssd aswell. I know the card is dated and was working well with most games except COD MW, which was my reason for updating the gpu. Thanks for reading. I already own the GPU.

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bblzd_2 July 12, 2020

Yes so you could go much lower with the CPU if you wanted to save money and don't need the increased CPU performance for non gaming tasks. 960 4GB is like 5 years old so a 5 year old CPU would already be enough.

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TwoHunnid July 12, 2020

its not going to be my main gaming pc as i have a 5700xt i5 build already. do you think the setup can play most games on medium settings? only reason why i dont want to get a weaker cpu is in a few years ill probably replace the 960 and get a better gpu. just wondering for right now how it will do

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chibicascade2 July 12, 2020

Yeah, it'll totally bottleneck it. An RTX 2060 will bottleneck it as well though, so just use the gpu you have if it's good enough for you.

If you haven't bought the CPU yet, you could go with a ryzen 3 or a 1600af/2600.

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TwoHunnid July 12, 2020

dang the cpu is that good. I just bought a 5700xt to pair with my i5 4690k and its working pretty good. the only reason i cant use the 5700xt withthe new gpu is that im building a Mini itx pc and that massive card will not fit lol.

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gsnail17 July 12, 2020

I don’t know a lot of pc stuff, so you might need a second opinion but 4g of vram seems like very little and is definitely not future proof

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TwoHunnid July 12, 2020

i already own the gpu sorry I will edit that in

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TeamWorkOPleaseNerf July 12, 2020

Its not ideal but low settings are your friend. Upgrade to say a 570 ASAP

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TwoHunnid July 12, 2020

I already own the gpu im trying to see how much im limiting the cpus potential

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lance5828 July 16, 2020

Will a RX 580 4gb bottleneck a Ryzen 5 3600x?

I am looking to upgrade my cpu soon and I am afraid that my gpu will bottleneck the cpu. Do you guys think that it’ll be fine or do I need to upgrade my gpu too? If i need to, what gpu will work well with the 3600x?

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ZeRo_P0W3RxX July 16, 2020

The 3600x is more than good enough for a rx580. I believe it is good enough for a 5600xt or 5700xt.

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MisterPhister101 July 16, 2020

Can confirm. Rocking a rx580 myself and its solid all the way around.

Forgot to include that i have the same cpu..

Youre going to have a grand time my friend

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ehr1c July 16, 2020

You generally want your GPU to be the limiting factor in gaming.

It is impossible, outside of maybe some extreme corner cases, to upgrade a component and have the overall effect on performance be negative.

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alein_10 July 16, 2020

Will my Ryzen 5 3600x bottleneck rtx 2070?

Hi guys. I'm planning to upgrade my gpu from gtx 1660 ti to rtx 2070. Will my R 5 3600x bottleneck rtx 2070?

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woopdeeh August 03, 2020

Could Ryzen 5 3600x be a bottleneck for 5700xt ASUS STRIX OC ?

I've upgraded from Radeon 570 XFX XXX to this GPU and it doesn't seem to improve FPS on AC Odyssey, modded Fallout 4 and Destiny 2. When I'm running those games the CPU usage hops around 70-99%. I just wanted to get input if this is normal. Thanks a lot for the help!

CPU- Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core

Cooler- Corsair H150i Pro

Radiator Fans- ML120 Pro RGB

Mobo- MSI B450 Tomahawk Max

Ram- 2 Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 2x8 gb DDR4-3200 CL16

GPU- Asus Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB STRIX Gaming OC

PSU- Corsair RMx 850w 80+ Gold

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NumbBumn August 03, 2020

No it cannot be a bottleneck and no it isn't normal , can't really help sorry , all i know is that that ain't normal

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Kyewbs August 03, 2020

Maybe check to see if anything's running in the background? I doubt ac odyssey or destiny 2 would fully saturate 12 threads, open task manager and check what's using your cpu

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woopdeeh August 03, 2020

hmm just checked the task manager and when not running any game the usage of CPU is only 10% but the memory is at 40% and I have 2x8 gb. Do you know if is a lot of memory usage when it's Idle? Got like 3 tabs of web browser, spotify, discord and steam opened.

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_fortune August 03, 2020

If your CPU usage is at 99% and your GPU usage is low, then yes it's a bottleneck, but the 3600X should not be bottlenecking a 5700XT in most games.

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rizzzeh August 03, 2020

im playing AC Origins on Ryzen 3100, the CPU is 70-80% which is normal. The CPU going to 100% for short periods is fine, it might be caching map and objects. If in game you are just standing in one space looking about, the usage should be 70-80%. Install MSI afterburner and set it to show all threads so you can see better how exactly it is utilised. Might be you have other tasks running in background besides the game?

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woopdeeh August 03, 2020

mine is around 80-100% when standing still in a mildly crowded area but benchmark videos with AC Odyssey with my same combo has the CPU running only at 40% and thanks for the suggestion i'll try to download it and i'm not really running other stuff besides a web browser, steam etc. normal gamer stuff and the CPU usage when not running a game is only 10%.

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IcarusV2 August 03, 2020

Before changing anything, I would try a reinstall of Windows with up-to-date BIOS, GPU and chipset drivers installed. It could be a software/OS issue causing your issue.

I have a 3600 (non X) and a Gigabyte RX 5700 XT and it is such a wonderful combo that can crunch through almost anything. You should not see bad performane with this combo.

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tirayr August 03, 2020

it is not normal, u have very bad 5700xt, u should go for sapphire nitro+ or powercolor red devil ones.

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woopdeeh August 03, 2020

Do you mean I got a defective GPU? or the STRIX brand is bad? Thanks for the help.

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ReviewJunior3798 July 11, 2020

rtx 2080 super and ryzen 5 3600x bottleneck ?

hello , so i want to buy an rtx 2080 super but i dont really know if my pc can handle it

pc specs :

Ryzen 5 3600x

1 stick 16 gb ram 2600 hz

Aorus B450 pro

550 psu

512 gb ssd and 1 tb hdd

and i big ass cooler cuz ive had cpu temeprature problems before

would i need to upgrade my whole rig at this point ?

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trillchef July 11, 2020

Prolly want to get 3200 ram I run 3600 and a 2070 super

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Xygen8 July 12, 2020

You will never ever bottleneck a modern high-end GPU with a modern high-end CPU unless you're playing 1) very CPU intensive games, or 2) non-GPU intensive games at low settings and resolutions with Vsync off resulting in extremely high framerates.

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jefedemuchanina July 12, 2020

My 3700x bottlenecks my 2080 super at 1440p in alot of games when over 120fps modern warfare division 2 pretty much any CPU heavy game it's pinging

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PCMasterraceHuman July 21, 2020

Will a r5 3600x bottleneck the new RTX series?

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SmileAsTheyDie July 21, 2020

Depends on the game/resolution/settings/card in question

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PCMasterraceHuman July 21, 2020

If the cpu is at 100% and the gpu is at 100% at 1440p ultrawide.

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kazez2 July 21, 2020

Probably not, tho we still don't know the exact performance of those cards

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Fluffasaurus89 July 21, 2020

We can’t test what we do not have, we won’t know for sure until they release.

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Wombatsarecute July 21, 2020

Who knows? We are all in the dark, we know nothing about those cards.

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apamise July 21, 2020
  • Turn on ray tracing.

  • Congratulations, your gpu is now the bottleneck!

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    pfury July 21, 2020

    Which one? 3080-3080ti not exactly, GPU at 1080p will be limited by cpu performance. If you play at 4K it doesn’t matter. If you are planning on buying $1000 GPU and play at 1080p you should consider buying faster cpu it matters more.

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    IUseControllerOnPC July 21, 2020

    Yeah it probably will at 1080p for most games and 1440p for some games

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    OriginalUsername1892 July 15, 2020

    Will an i5-9600K bottleneck an RTX 2060 Super

    Just saved up and purchased an RTX 2060 Super. I am currently using an i5-8400 processor and expect bottleneck issues, and plan on upgrading to an i5-9600K since I don't have enough to replace my Intel motherboard. Will the 9600K solve any bottlenecking issues I encounter with my current CPU? Thanks.

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    OriginalUsername1892 July 15, 2020

    A motherboard that came with my prebuilt and an i5-8400

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    John-Sobieski July 15, 2020

    They will work perfectly together. They are well matched.

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    thrownawayzss July 15, 2020

    No point in getting a 9600k if you don't have a mobo to support an OC and a cooler to handle the temps. So you're going to be throwing more money down than you'll want for a pretty insignificant performance amount.

    Assuming you can't OC the 9600k at all, it's like 15% faster at base clock speeds, which probably isn't worth it at this time.

    The 8400 is a fine chip and it's probably not going to be your bottleneck anyway.

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    GlassJackhammer July 31, 2020

    I5 9600k users, what graphics card do you have, and do you get bottlenecks in gaming, (csgo, valorant, warzone, etc.) and what percentages do you get while gaming? (Also please mention if anything is overclocked) thanks :)

    Obviously it’s not perfect, but it gives an idea of what card is a good pairing with I5 9600k for gaming.

    Thanks :)

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    grumd July 31, 2020

    You came to the right place lol.

    9600k at 5.2GHz, 5.1GHz when AVX is active. 1080TI, overclocked on a curve, mostly running 2000-2012 MHz on the core. 6000 on the memory.

    Playing on a 1440p240 monitor. All games in 2560x1440.

    I get 300-400 fps in CSGO (fps_max 400), completely zero issues. Can rarely drop to 270. 50% CPU usage, 50% GPU usage.

    220-380 fps in Valorant. Drops below 240 in firefights with abilities. I also talked to a Valorant dev, they're saying that my fps is what's expected from my overclocked CPU. GPU doesn't even boost to its max clocks in this game, completely CPU-limited. I can make my GPU to boost higher if I set the graphics settings to maximum, but FPS is completely the same.

    I also play Overwatch, 270 fps on average, drops to 220 rarely, usually 240-300 fps. 85% GPU load, 90% CPU load.

    I have Warzone but haven't played it, if you really need it, I can benchmark it. I also have Apex and PUBG which I don't play.

    80-100 fps in Witcher 3, but that's completely GPU-limited.

    Basically, for 1080p a 1070/2060 will be enough. For 1440p you might want to get a 1080-1080ti/2080-2080S.

    Keep in mind that right now is a terrible time to buy a new GPU.

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    Operation-Void July 31, 2020

    Bench AC Odyssey lmao. 100% CPU usage 60% GPU usage is very likely.

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    thrownawayzss August 01, 2020

    [email protected] 1.37

    That's a hot boi. what cooler you running?

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    GlassJackhammer August 02, 2020

    Thanks so much for the info. Your right, I don’t think it’s worth upgrading g card during current world events. I think I’m just gonna sell my rig in a few years, and build a new one.

    I can’t help but notice your name, I think you’ve helped me out before idk. Do you browse r/overclocking , and r/techsupport a lot?

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    peanutbrainTT July 12, 2020

    Will an i5-9600k bottleneck me at 1440p if I get a top end GPU now or in the future?

    My graphics card currently is a gtx 1080ti, I've been gaming on 1440p since I got my 9600k late last year. Is this CPU okay for another 2 or 3 more years? My intent is to get a top end card in the future (like the rtx 3080 or whatever it is 2 or 3 years later) since i'm gaming at 1440p.

    I've noticed that some of the RPG games I play like AC: Odyssey or Kingdom Come Deliverance are maxing out all 6 cores of my CPU (as per task manager) while keeping my graphics card at 85 to 95% (as per MSi afterburner) though there are times where it also maxes out at 100% gpu usage.


    My frames aren't so bad right now, on quick/rough 'benchmark' i did, those 2 games for example i'm getting 60 to 80 fps on the highest presets

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    Refect420 July 12, 2020

    A lot can happen in 2-3 years. There really is no way of knowing if that cpu will be good for high end gpu's in the forseeable future. Either way, it might age well to an mid-level cpu.

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    carll337 July 12, 2020

    Only games which are CPU heavy may hold you back. So imo I would say you are fine for the next few years.

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    Hubert_LeGrange July 12, 2020

    I'm on the 8700k and intend to keep it for another 2-3 years myself. Got a 1080ti that I will be upgrading relatively soon tho.

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    Elliove July 12, 2020

    As a gamer you care about smooth and responsive gameplay. Usage % doesn't affect your experience anyhow, so don't think that much about it.

    Also, try RTSS framerate limiting to stabilise frametimes. Ideally, you want neither your CPU nor GPU above 90% during the gameplay.

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    Vrikkiegikk July 20, 2020

    Would an i5-9600k and rtx 2080 bottleneck?

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    Wighty- July 20, 2020

    Bottlenecks depend on how your using the hardware, 9600k can be a bottleneck if the workload is too CPU heavy since it’s only 6c/6t. OCing can help get more out of it before needing a higher tier chip

    For most games it’s fine, it got just enough cores currently. And the clocks are some of the highest at default speeds, not going to let you down but look into OC, get a good cooler, and some good TIM

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    adamEbrew July 20, 2020

    This. Bottlenecks are software dependent. Certain games and settings will see more frames with a better chip or faster clock. People use bottleneck as a catchall term for what cpu's and gpu's make sensible combos or not but there's more going on than that. This is a good combo. You could still technically bottleneck. Probably not a big deal. There are CPU intense games like Total War the 9600k would bottleneck even on a GTX1080. The flat out no's are wrong plain and simple.

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    Ralsei October 01, 2018
    Fractal Design Meshify C is a perfect case for airflow and my personal recommendation to many.

    However, airflow still depends on your case fan placements. The most efficient placement is 2x 140mm/3x 120mm intakes and one 120mm or 140mm rear exhaust. No fans on top. Cool air from the outside goes into the CPU cooler, and hot air from the CPU/GPU leaves out the back. Streamlined front to back airflow.

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    But, this is just a recommendation. You can still go with the Dark Rock Pro 4 if you want. If you DO go with any of the Noctua coolers, be sure to check motherboard compatibility and case clearance on Noctua's website.

    Lastly, RPM barely matters on a fan. What matters is the static pressure (if mounted on a CPU cooler heatsink) and the CFM (amount of air it moves). My Noctua fans are so efficient I don't even need to bring them past 1000 RPM even under load.
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    Regev July 27, 2020
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  • i3 10100 = $300 (B460) or $336 (Z490)
  • i5 10400 = $390 (B460) or $426 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700 = $396 (B350) or $427 (B450) or $497 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600 = $402 (B350) or $419 (B450) or $493 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10500 = $412 (B460) or $448 (Z490)
  • i5 10600 = $427 (B460) or $463 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700X = $430 (B350) or $461 (B450) or $531 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600X = $432 (B350) or $463 (B450) or $533 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10600K = $482 (B460) or $518 ( Z490)
  • Ryzen 5 3600XT = $490 (B350) or $521 (B450) or $591 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 7 3700X = $529 (B350) or $560 (B450) or $630 (X470/B550)
  • i7 10700 = $568 (B460) or $604 (Z490)
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    Karadjgne December 26, 2012
    Things take time. It takes a cpu a certain amount of time to render anything, game frame, web page etc. A stronger cpu can do things in less time as it has more available resources to work with. A 3700x might render a page in 1 second, a 3400G might take 2 seconds. To a cpu that's a huge improvement, massive really. To you, you blinked and it was over with. Can't really say just exactly how much of a difference there is on such a small scale. But when it comes to large scale, that's a different story. Play gta5 on a 3400G and 3700x, there's a fps difference, then add in streaming and the 4 cores of the 3400G just got swamped and fps drops like a bad habit. The 8/16 of the 3700x doesn't even blink.

    Mmorpgs online are even worse. All that AI can be seriously detrimental to fps. I play swtor and in single player ultra have no issues on an i7-3770K with getting 90fps+. 8man op and I'm into 60-90fps range, 16man op and I'm averaging 30fps with all cpu details disabled/min and a 24man world boss fight is miserable at 5-10fps and everything disabled. Just way too much, too intensive, too cpu challenging for even a 8thread i7 at 4.6GHz to handle. 3400G will be far worse as it has no Lcache and not nearly the same resources, even if it does have better IPC. Fastest runner in the world is useless if he has a ball and chain around 1 ankle. Make him stronger, make the chain longer and he'll just lick it up and run.

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    TM1172 July 23, 2020
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    geofelt October 09, 2006
    Sometimes it takes a bit of time for the motherboard to adjust ram settings.
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    FWIW, do not normally power off.
    Use sleep to ram instead(no hibernate)
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    Sleep and wake then are only a matter of a few seconds.
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    Lutfij October 07, 2009
    Either kit will do, just that G.Skill's tend to be more friendly when it comes to wiggle room, either undervolting or tightening timings with reduced frequency or perhaps bumping the volts a little to get tight timings and that high frequency. I'm speaking from my experience on the matter with rams and overclocking them, Corsair's tend to be a little picky on how much can be tuned on their kits outside of their Dominator series.
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    kurdtnz July 16, 2020
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    sizzling October 18, 2006
    Are you keeping the same cooler? If yes you will need something to clean off the old paste and some new paste.

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    • RAM: 2x8GB 3000MHz
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    jeremyj_83 August 23, 2017
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    kurdtnz July 13, 2020
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    Koushal Saini July 12, 2020
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    siaan312 June 15, 2017
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    SideHw July 10, 2020
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    First of all, I want to thank all of you in advance.

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    Do you guys have any suggestions?
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    Djoza April 05, 2020
    ryzen 5 3600x is a waste of money compared to ryzen 5 3600,it has bassically no performance difference compared to the non-x 3600.With no doubt MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX is a very good option for ryzen 5 3600,but it doesnt have some features B550 has,such as PCIe Gen 4.0 and better future proofing.Asus ROG makes good B550 ones and since you want ROG board heres some good ones:
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    niklas.volkweib July 10, 2020
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    Hi,

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    No error LEDs light up. All fans are spinning, and all the drives and the RAM are detected by the mainboard, which I can check when I get into the Bios.

    I have cleared the CMOS once and that was the first time i got into the BIOS but it didnt help with my problem.

    I have tried booting with only one of the two RAM sticks in.

    I dont know what to try next and if i should just send the mainboard back.

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    InvalidError May 18, 2007
    Was worth a shot. The next thing you could try before declaring the board bricked is disabling all non-essential IO to see if you can bypass whatever is causing the board to hang before loading the OS/memtest.
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    Zellweger July 09, 2020
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    geofelt October 09, 2006
    Either cooler would do the job.
    But, they are tall coolers(166.5 and 162.8) and may not fit in some cases.
    The cm master 500 cases have good airflow and can handle coolers up to 167mm
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    ThatSourMelon July 17, 2020
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    sizzling October 18, 2006
    You could start with a top end gpu when next gen are out. The 9600k will do a decent job but yes you may see some FPS drops in some games that a cpu with more threads would not suffer. For cpu probably best to wait and see what Ryzen 4000 series brings.
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    aykkoxdd June 20, 2020
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    Kamal007v November 15, 2014
    R5 3600 anyday unless your main game is something like Arma 3 that relies on High clocks. Even then it's not worth it to dump the 3600 for just one game. Maybe the 10600K if you specifically wanna buy intel for some reason but again the price to performance ratio 3600 wins.
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    Vast__ June 16, 2020
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    I put in my old CPU and the PC worked with no problem.

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    PSU: CX 500
    MB: B250m Motherboard MSI
    New CPU: i5 9600k
    Old CPU: i5 7500

    Image of PC
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    rgd1101 November 07, 2011
    motherboard only support 6th/7th cpu
    is in the cpu supported list on MSI website

    and you should get a new cooler for 9600k, not the stock i5 7500 cooler
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    AzzyDude24601 June 15, 2020
    Are these benchmark scores accurate for i5-9600k vs i7-9700k ?
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    Anyway, recently I decided to do a 3DMark benchmark (Time Spy) on both machines and it said the i5 9600k scored about 5000 on the CPU test whereas the i7 9700k scored 8000. I really wasn't expecting this much of a difference between the two and I'm almost concerned her CPU might not be performing correctly. Does this seem like accurate scoring?

    I guess I just thought for gaming, there wasn't that much of a leap between the i5 and the i7 versions of these chips.
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    popatim December 02, 2009
    6 cores vs 8 cores

    dividing the score by Compute units (cores times clockspeed) you come out with ~.2 for hers and ~ .22 for yours. I used 4200 & 4600 respectively.

    Close enough for me and I expect you rounded those TimeSpy scores anyways.
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    Skylineyt June 10, 2020
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    This is the spec list - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YYmDvW

    Also he has a 500watt PSU, that should be enough?
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    Karadjgne December 26, 2012
    Because no everybody wants or needs to overclock and K series cpus have slightly higher base clocks and less issues with ram compatibility at higher ram speeds.
    No thank you. I'd not suggest the use of Evga B1, N1, W1, G1, NEX or any of a half dozen other Evga branded units, or even some of the Seasonic built older units like from XFX or Antec or even Seasonic. I'd rather have no pc at all than deal with an S12-III.

    OEM and vendor aside, it's the model itself that is everything. Huge difference between an Evga NEX or 500B/N/W and an Evga G2 or Corsair VS and AXi.
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    morettim1 June 10, 2020
    PC high temps both idle and while gaming
    Hello, so I recently swapped out my Cryorig H7 quad lumi air cooler for a Cryorig A40 water cooler. While it gave me a headache to install (mainly because i never dealt with pc parts before) it was doing just fine with temps. I even stress tested and the highest it went to was 71 C on the cpu side so i know for a fact it doesnt have to do with the thermal paste or anything. A day later i installed two rgb fans that i ordered from amazon (i believe they are called Pccooler halo rgb fans 3 pack) into the case and im not sure if i connected the headers in the wrong place or what but my pc has been reaching temps of 76C on the GPU and 75 ish C on the CPU ever since. I have no idea what I did wrong and im losing my mind with this damn pc. Its currently 81 degrees Fahrenheit in my apartment so im not sure if thats what is causing the insanely high temps. I should also mention that my pc keeps completely crashing and making a high annoying buzzing sound as if something is breaking like 10 mins after i start gaming or using the pc, which causes me to have to hard boot it off.
    Rig:
    Rtx 2070 Zotac Extreme AMP
    MSI z390 gaming edge AC
    i5 9600k (overclocked to 4.3ghz i had no problem with overclocking prior to installing these fans and new cpu cooler so that is not the problem)
    Team force 16 gigs of ram
    650 watt power supply
    Cryorig A40 cpu cooler
    Intel 660p 512gb SSD
    1TB HDD
    H500 NZXT case

    Please let me know if i can provide any more info that can help determine the issue, im not too knowledgeable about pc parts so i know i must have done something to mess up the system.
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    Phaaze88 December 30, 2016
    Let's see here...
    Yep, you've got way too much exhaust: top, rear, and front.

    All you have to do here is remove the radiator fans, 180 them, and reinstall them - done.
    By 180, I mean just flip the fans around.
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    newbie_builder420 June 05, 2020
    How to fix first PC build?
    Currently very frustrated at how my first PC build is going. I installed Windows (or partway through at least) and the PC restarted but now it's stuck at the EZ debug light for the CPU. The fans turn when everytime it blinks (in white).

    I am not sure what the exact issue is, but I am almost sure at this point it's some piece of hardware's failure. Either the CPU, motherboard, or the power supply. Still, I am not sure what to do and am so frustrated especially after spending so much money and time for this.
    Pictures of motherboard and CPU pins:
    View: http://imgur.com/gallery/NfZMvg3


    Case: Phanteks Eclipse P350X
    Mobo: MSI Z390-A PRO
    CPU: Intel i5-9600K
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 × 8 GB)
    SSD: Samsung 970 EVO (500 GB)
    GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super Ventus XS OC
    CPU Fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition
    Power Supply: Corsair CX550M
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    julienruc August 08, 2018
    Sorry about this, but I misread your inital post and shouks have read it better.

    The Z390 should natively support 9th Gen out of the box. Your PC did post since you were half-way installing Windows. I think the issue may come from somewhere else. Are you able to access the BIOS at all now?
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    TheTuskii June 02, 2020
    PC Upgrade Path
    Hello whoever's reading this!


    Back a few years I built my very first pc, I used a Pentium G4620 , Zotac mini GTX 1050 , a 500W Cert. PSU , a b250m motherboard , 16gb of DDR4 and a common WD blue 1TB HHD . Since then I have upgraded my mother board to a Z270 Gaming Pro Carbon , my crappy case, my PSU (which is now a 600W cooler master 80+ bronz cert. PSU ), and finally my CPU cooler to a after market one.

    Just by the specs you can tell it is nothing over the top xD! I was wondering what a good upgrades would be.
    As of now I am looking at the RTX 2060 Super, and the i5 9600k. I want a noticeable upgrade in graphics and fps, and something that will allow me to expand in the future. (BTW I already ordered a 1tb SSD , tired of a 10 minute system power up lol. Any ideas, or different upgrades please let me know. Also I would like something that maybe supports Ray Tracing .

    Thanks,

    Andrew
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    hang-the-9 March 25, 2010
    Since you have a high end motherboard you may just want to change your CPU from the Pentium to a higher spec 7th gen i5 or an i7 (used) and replace the video card so you don't need to change the motherboard as well again. Changing the motherboard and cooler while leaving the CPU the same was not a good move, a motherboard does almost nothing for the speed of the system unless you are pushing the thing with overclocking.
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    iMatty May 27, 2020
    Question about temperature
    So right now, I am running an i3 9100f.
    And because I live in a hot country, and my AC is broken.
    I am using a fan to blow air onto me and my pc.
    But I just noticed that my CPU is getting to 60-61 C while gaming, but because my AC is broken, when my AC is not its around 50 or 51.
    Would that consider being overheating or?

    And right now, I ordered an i5 9600k and its on the way, I have my cooler in my signature.

    Thank you in advance.
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    CountMike October 31, 2015
    No, those are fine temps.
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    Mattjaccino May 23, 2020
    Gigabyte B360 HD3 onboard LAN not working
    I just upgraded my PC with an i5-9600K and an RX 5700 XT, but my ethernet port doesn't doing anything now.

    This motherboard was my brothers, so I know it works as we were both wired in to our router. I installed all the drivers, but when I try to install the RTL8111 driver, it says "the network controller was not found" and quits.

    What do I do?

    Edit: I see in the peripherals menu on the BIOS screen that the controller is not listed, so it must be broken.
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    Karadjgne December 26, 2012
    Well if that didn't fix it, then it's not a software or driver communication error, because those commands basically reboot and reset that in bios/windows, like a hard reset. Which leaves a physical hardware issue, maybe that screw shorted between 2 points and messed up a physical component like a cap or diode. It's even possible to break the traces, especially on older boards, they seperate from the solder joint or crack.

    Your solution of an adding card is usually the best fix, as it's also quite often an upgrade in bandwidth capacity.
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    riobijoy May 23, 2020
    Good PSU for i5 9600k and RTX 2060 AMP
    Please suggest a good PSU for my components,Earlier i have Cooler Master Thunder 600 W SMPS

    Processor----i5 9600k.
    GPU----------Zotac RTX 2020 Amp.
    HDD---------2x2 TB HDD.
    CPU Cooler----Cooler master Evo 212.
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    siaan312 June 15, 2017
    550 watts should be enough for that system.

    i usually go for corsair cxm series since its modular and cheap, and is rated not bad on the psu tier list, but you dont have to.
    https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
    take anything from there, i wouldnt go lower than B tier.
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    iMatty May 20, 2020
    Upgrade i5 9600k
    My motherboard is in my signature, and I was wondering that I will be upgrading to the i5 9600k.

    I checked my motherboard manual and it said it's supported.
    I just wanna make sure that it should work just fine?

    Thank you
    X
    xerxesaria July 28, 2020
    Build with i5 10500
    Hi.
    I’m looking to build my next computer for gaming. So far, after some research, I have come up with the following and would like to know what the experts can tell me.
    this is my build for the most important components:


    1. CPU :
    Intel i5 10500 or intel i5 10600 or intel i5 10600k
    2. Motherboard:
    I prefer to go with micro atx, but atx is also just as good.
    • gigabyte z490 m
    • gigabyte z490 ud
    • gigabyte z490 gaming x
    • gigabyte Z490 gaming plus
    My preference goes to gigabyte, because over the years I’ve been very happy with my other builds and their motherboards.
    additionally, my preference goes to a motherboard with wifi. Or should I get a separate wifi card?
    3. RAM :
    2x16 G skills Ripjaws v f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

    Thank you.
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    logainofhades April 27, 2009
    For pure gaming a 10600k is definitely the price/performance king, but, with the GPU's you intend to use, I don't think you are going to see any meaningful difference, vs say an R5 3600. If going with the R5 3600 will free up budget, for a better GPU, you will want to go that route, also. You are going to get better gaming performance, with an R5 3600, and a faster GPU, than you would with a 10600k, and a slower one. Looking at pricing, for your area, with PCPP, the R5 3600, vs 10600k, is enough that you could step up to a 2070s, vs a 2060s.

    PCPartPicker Part List

    CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor (€273.95 @ Azerty)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler (€34.95 @ Paradigit)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte Z490M GAMING X Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (€169.85 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€110.00 @ Azerty)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (€421.00 @ Azerty)
    Total: €1009.75
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-30 16:01 CEST+0200

    vs

    PCPartPicker Part List

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€173.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler (€34.95 @ Paradigit)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€107.50 @ Azerty)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€110.00 @ Azerty)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card (€535.00 @ Azerty)
    Total: €961.40
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-30 16:02 CEST+0200
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    Regev July 27, 2020
    Which of these is the best CPU+cooler+motherboard combo?
    Hey guys!

    So, I got a 1TB NVMe, a 700W Platinum+ SFX-L, and a kit of 32GB 3200. Thanks to your advice, I was gonna get the i9-9900 (at 50% off from a family member working for Intel), but when I went to find an ITX motherboard the only one I found in my country that can sustain an i9 is the Phantom, which costs $258. I also read that I'd need to buy a cooler cause the Intel 9th gen stock one sucks, so it's another $59 for the L12S.

    I'm reconsidering options before ordering. Here are possible combinations I found (all with mITX motherboards). I do not need a video card at all, it's purely for productivity uses (lots of text, very heavy browser use, web developing, and some programming). When necessary, I factored in the cheapest 1030 that I found. Also, I used the stock cooler (hope it's enough) on all builds (except the 9900). Listed in order of price:

  • Ryzen 5 3400G = $271 (B350) or $301 (B450)
  • i3 10100 = $300 (B460) or $336 (Z490)
  • i5 10400 = $390 (B460) or $426 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700 = $396 (B350) or $427 (B450) or $497 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600 = $402 (B350) or $419 (B450) or $493 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10500 = $412 (B460) or $448 (Z490)
  • i5 10600 = $427 (B460) or $463 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700X = $430 (B350) or $461 (B450) or $531 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600X = $432 (B350) or $463 (B450) or $533 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10600K = $482 (B460) or $518 ( Z490)
  • Ryzen 5 3600XT = $490 (B350) or $521 (B450) or $591 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 7 3700X = $529 (B350) or $560 (B450) or $630 (X470/B550)
  • i7 10700 = $568 (B460) or $604 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 3800X = $574 (B350) or $605 (B450, $675 (X470/B550)
  • i9 9900 = $590 (50% off on CPU, pricey Z390 + Noctua L12S)
  • i7 10700K = $628 (B460) or $664 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 3800XT = $653 (B350) or $684 (B450) or $754 (X470/B550)
  • Which configuration gives the best bang for the buck for the uses I listed (without suffering any productivity setback)? Still the i9?

    Thanks <3
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    Karadjgne December 26, 2012
    Things take time. It takes a cpu a certain amount of time to render anything, game frame, web page etc. A stronger cpu can do things in less time as it has more available resources to work with. A 3700x might render a page in 1 second, a 3400G might take 2 seconds. To a cpu that's a huge improvement, massive really. To you, you blinked and it was over with. Can't really say just exactly how much of a difference there is on such a small scale. But when it comes to large scale, that's a different story. Play gta5 on a 3400G and 3700x, there's a fps difference, then add in streaming and the 4 cores of the 3400G just got swamped and fps drops like a bad habit. The 8/16 of the 3700x doesn't even blink.

    Mmorpgs online are even worse. All that AI can be seriously detrimental to fps. I play swtor and in single player ultra have no issues on an i7-3770K with getting 90fps+. 8man op and I'm into 60-90fps range, 16man op and I'm averaging 30fps with all cpu details disabled/min and a 24man world boss fight is miserable at 5-10fps and everything disabled. Just way too much, too intensive, too cpu challenging for even a 8thread i7 at 4.6GHz to handle. 3400G will be far worse as it has no Lcache and not nearly the same resources, even if it does have better IPC. Fastest runner in the world is useless if he has a ball and chain around 1 ankle. Make him stronger, make the chain longer and he'll just lick it up and run.

    B450m-H is a value motherboard. More tailored towards the 3600 or lesser cpus. It'll handle a 3700x just fine under normal circumstances, but Ryzens are dynamic cpus, they boost according to voltages, temps, loads. With no heatsink the VRM's will run hotter and will limit the boosting ability of the cpu. They won't overheat, but instead of seeing nice high boosts, you'll be relegated to more minimal boosts. The cpu will protect itself and the motherboard from excessive power draws.
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    chickenballs July 03, 2020
    sata ssds vs nvme for games
    I recently saw a MP510 2tb for around $100 cheaper than any other nvme drives with the same capacity and wonder if I should get it.
    Its only like $270 while the cheapest Samsung 970 evo plus 1tb is around $240

    My current PC which i mainly use for gaming is a bit old with a 4790K on a msi z97 Gaming5 mobo
    it currently has 4 sata ssds installed:
    Samsung 860 evo 1tb C:
    Samsung 850 evo 1tb
    Crucial mx500 1tb
    Samsung 850 evo 500 gb
    It also has one empty m.2 which I believe is only pcie2 x2

    but I plan on upgrading to either zen3 or i5 10600K later this year

    So my question is when I upgrade to a more modern mobo and cpu
    should I also replace the 860evo sata ssd
    with something like the mp510 1920gb or the mp600 if i get zen3 with x570/b550
    and then keep all 4 sata ssds for games

    would the sata drives be too slow for recently released triple A games and future games?
    considering the next gen consoles will have ssds that are as fast or even faster than pcie4 ssds
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    USAFRet March 16, 2013
    I'd have to see hard numbers, not just online articles pondering what may happen in devices and software that is not released yet.

    I have 7 SSDs, no HDD.
    6x SATA III and 1x NVMe (Intel 660p). In actual use, I can tell little difference, even though the Sequential benchmark of the 660p is 3 times faster than the SATA drives.

    What makes solid state drives shine over HDD is the near zero access time. In that...they are all very close.
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    thomas123321 June 28, 2020
    z490 motherboard for 10600k overclock
    There are 3 options,
    MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge WIFI
    MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus
    Gigabyte Z490 VISION G

    I saw the gamer nexus video on the z490 motherboard about the vrms and all, i want to know is there a difference between the gaming plus and gaming edge wifi in its power delivery, vrms etc and wether should I go with the Vision G instead for the true 12 phase?

    Edit: Also will I be able to overclock the 10600k on just the 8pin or will i have to plug in both the 4 pin with the 8pin
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    fraybentos July 02, 2020
    I wouldn't bother with any of those. I'd get the MSI Z490 Pro-A, comparing the manuals of the boards reveals that all of the the BIOS settings and features are the same as the gaming boards; it has the same power delivery and VRMs, but is a lot cheaper (minus wifi and silly LEDS). All the gaming boards are just gimmicky marketting and accordingly overpriced. I'm using the Pro-A myself. It has lovely solid metal VRM coolers (no plastic). I have my 10600K overclocked 4.9 GHz on all cores at 1.28V (or 5.0 GHz at 1.36V). I installed 16GB of G Skill 3600 CL15 RAM and have been able to overclock it to 4000 MHz CL14 (1.45 Vdimm, 1.2 V VCCSA and 1.2 V VCCIO). Essentially, I've reproduced what was obtained in the GamersNexus video where the 10600K beats a 10900K. Albeit, I prefer to run cooler and quieter at 4.9 GHz all core (160 Watts under load) as 5.0 GHz pulls 180 Watts, which is too much for my cooler to handle. I haven't tried to hit 5.1 GHz except on a few individual cores.

    I plugged in both an 8 pin and 4 pin to the motherboard (but only running from a single cable, came with my EVGA G2 650). I have seen others using a single 8 pin only, but I have not tried myself. Just consider that my 4.9 GHz all core overclock is pulling upto 160 Watts off a single rail under AVX load in Cinebench R20.

    Budget Z490s are reviewed here and the MSI Pro-A is one of the two that is actually decent (as noted above, the guts of this board are the same as the gaming branded ones!)
    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdgNEXpBrfg
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    brandon9455 June 17, 2020
    10600k vs 10600kf
    im buying either of the two, but the kf ive noticed is £50 cheaper and im not too sure why, can someone fill me in on what the difference is please. ive googled it before you say and im not finding much
    K
    King_V November 01, 2014
    The KF does not include the integrated Intel graphics.

    I don't think the Intel graphics are worth anything close to £50, so either the KF version is a great deal, or the K version is a lousy deal.

    But, uh, if you went to google and typed:
    difference between k and kf intel

    The very first result tells you the answer.
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    brandon9455 June 17, 2020
    what motherboard to get for a future 10600k
    im planning on upgrading my current R5 1600x system to a i5 10600k as i mostly just game. im looking at motherboards and atm think that the msi mpg z490 gaming plus as its cheap and doesn't look too bad, im willing to spend £200 and have been told to stay away from asrock and go for asus or msi. i will be wanting to overclock my CPU as well so bare that in mind. also is there anything i need to do when switching from ryzen to intel as i plan to keep the same drives
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    geofelt October 09, 2006
    The msi mpg z490 gaming plus is probably a good bet.
    A quick look on newegg from verified owners of Z490 motherboards has the msi Z489 edge wifi as the most popular with all good reviews.
    https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144302?&quicklink=true
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    laker1706 June 10, 2020
    Intel K vs KF
    Hi guys.
    I'm about to purchase the I5 10600K/KF.
    I know that the only difference is that the "KF" doesn't have an IGP.
    Sadly, the "KF" is out of stock for nobody knows how long in pretty much every store in my country(they all assume it's gonna be about a week).
    The "K" model is available but for about 35$ more and while I really wanna make this purchase before this weekend, I'm trying to find justification for that price difference.
    Anyone has experience troubleshooting with the non IGP CPUs? I remember one time I screwed up my BiOS and what saved me was the IGP because the GPU graphics were gone or something.
    So, is there and justification for paying 35$ for the "K" model except for my lack of patience?
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    Phillip Corcoran September 07, 2013
    Well personally I wouldn't want to have a system with only one GPU, and I wouldn't baulk at shelling out an extra $35. Not exactly a fortune is it?
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    lolermanlols123 June 04, 2020
    i5-10600k vs. Ryzen 7 3700X, OC Performance
    Hello all,

    I am wondering which CPU here would be the better buy factoring in their OC performance in gaming.
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    Phaaze88 December 30, 2016
    They're going to be roughly the same.
    If we were to compare the 2 cpus on the same gpu, the 10600K would actually have an edge over the 3600.
    But the budget from the lower cost of the Ryzen platform allows you to step up to a higher gpu tier. That's going to be a boon for the 3600 against the 10600K.
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    luka1000 May 29, 2020
    Is this upgrade that much better
    Hi i currently have a i7 7700k. i got a bonus at work and was thinking of upgrading to the i5 10600kf. I was wondering if it is a good upgrade.
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    Zerk2012 October 06, 2014
    I don't upgrade just to upgrade, I would only upgrade if their a specific task that your PC is not doing as good as you would like.

    Your not going to get a lot of single core performance, the all core performance makes a bigger difference BUT only if what you do with the PC can take advantage of all the cores.

    You could sell your processor board and memory (since it is slow at today's standards) That would get a portion of your money back.

    I would probably be looking at one of these, with a good CPU cooler and faster memory with the right motherboard for the processor. I personally don't care for AMD but the price to performance is good.
    Any of then should last a long time before needing to upgrade again.

    https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/LhCD4D,QKJtt6,yhxbt6/
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    Karte May 27, 2020
    New Gaming PC
    Howdy,

    I'm planning a new PC build, I've worked out which pieces I want and just thought I would check in on whether there was something I missed like compatibility issues etc. I would primarily be using it for gaming and would not be wanting to upgrade for awhile.
    This is my plan:

    CPU: Intel 10600K
    MOBO: Asus ROG Strix Z490-A
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB
    C Drive: Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU: Corsair SF750 750W
    GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super Windforce

    Thanks for the input!
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    Vic 40 October 22, 2013
    Those RMx are fine choices. The 650watt would be fine for 99% of the builds you would want to power with it and especially with the parts you chose. You could do with a 550watt version.
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    Zerk2012 May 26, 2020
    Secure erase VS quick format SSD.
    Been a while on this for me so just to make sure, If I remember right it will do the same thing but since it was the C drive the quick format will still leave a windows old that needs to be deleted. But secure erasing a Samsung drive that is a C drive requires another PC since you can't erase your C drive with the OS on it. (Then their also the chance of bricking the drive Frozen state on a secure erase)

    So I'm thinking quick format, delete windows old, then another quick format. Like I said could be wrong on the windows old but just checking.

    Upgrading PC tomorrow since the 10600K is supposed to be released don't really need to upgrade mine but giving my son the 4790K to replace his 2500K.

    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TDxFn7
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    USAFRet March 16, 2013
    Commandline function diskpart, and the clean command will wipe all on that 860 EVO.
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    WolverineP1 May 17, 2020
    Intel Core i5-10600K vs I7 9700
    They both have similar core clocks and are around the same price, but I was wondering if the 8 cores and 8 threads of the 9700 would be any better or worse than the 6 core and 12 thread 10600k. Hopefully a quick one, just curious.
    Thank you
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    DSzymborski November 19, 2010
    Can't answer until the actual reviews.
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    KeithK2006 December 31, 1969
    Does this look good?
    I've made LOADS of changes with the pc I'm planning on building and I think I've finally decided on it.
    Build: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pJGPwh
    I chose the 10600k over the 3700x as I was told it outperforms the 3700x in most games (Plus its cheaper) I also ditched the 2080 super as it's probably not worth the extra money for a slight frame increase.
    I was just wondering if everything in the build looks compatible and if I made any stupid decisions xd
    thanks
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    pastel_x July 30, 2020
    Can't decide which PC case.
    Hello everyone!

    So i am building my first PC but I can't decide which mid-tower case to choose for my build.

    I want a case with good airflow with stock fans and not too much/excessive noise.
    I want good dust filtering and cable management.
    I will NOT use multiple GPUs
    I prefer to spend below $120

    The cases that i like but can't decide which one to choose are:
    -Be Quiet! Pure Base 600
    -Fractal Design Define C TG

    Here are my specs:
    -AMD Ryzen 7 3700x 3.6GHz AM4 Processor
    -MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard
    -Kingston HyperX Predator 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
    -Samsung 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
    -Western Digital Blue 1 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
    -GIGABYTE GeForce GTX1650 4096Mb D6 OC Video Card
    -SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply


    Any help would be much appreciated.


    Edit: changed gpu
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    Nemesia November 06, 2019
    If you want a good case with good airflow do not buy any with the front closed like that. Try getting a case with an open front for maximum airflow. Ill check. Brb.
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    pastel_x July 30, 2020
    Is stock cooler enough for Ryzen 7 3700x?
    Hello everyone!
    Will AMD Ryzen 7 3700x stock cooler be enough for my build?

    Here are my specs:
    -AMD Ryzen 7 3700x 3.6GHz AM4 Processor
    -MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard
    -Kingston HyperX Predator 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
    -Samsung 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
    -Western Digital Blue 1 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
    -GIGABYTE GeForce GTX1650 4096Mb D6 OC Video Card
    -SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    -Be Quiet! Pure Base 600 case

    Thanks in advance.
    K
    Karadjgne December 26, 2012
    Nope to all of the above. Ryzens don't work that way.
    Ryzens are a dynamic based cpu, they are not Intel with a set turbo speed. They'll boost according to voltages, currant and temp. If you put a better cooler on the cpu, it'll boost higher, but consequently will run the same temps. It'll do that until it hits power limits. The only time a Ryzen runs cooler is if you go overboard on the cooling, allowing the cpu to hit its power limits and have enough capacity left over to cool the cpu over and above its normal levels.

    For instance, if running a decent load at stock and getting 80°C at 3.7GHz, adding a hyper212 will allow 80°C but a 3.9GHz boost. Adding a bigger cooler you'll get 4.1GHz etc. It's only when boost is as high as you can go, that the cooler will start seeing lower temps.

    Overclocking by setting definitive voltage and speed levels will cancel the dynamic boost and the cpu will cool as it will, same as Intel.

    As to whether the stock cooler is enough, yes, it's plenty at stock performance and stock boost, although you might not be happy with the volume of the fan or the boost speeds with heavier, high thread loads. That's where many aftermarket coolers have the advantage, apart from allowing a higher boost level. You'll not really see temps dropping unless you go with a really decent capacity cooler or better, but that's because it's a Ryzen, not an intel, so behaves differently.
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    lawrenzrat July 29, 2020
    best value gpu for R7 3700X + b450 aorus combo for 1080p ultra?
    what's the best value gpu for R7 3700X + b450 aorus combo for 1080p ultra that hits 60 - 100fps + if its possible.....

    thanks for the answers..
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    brewcrew650 February 13, 2018
    It really depends on what you had in mind for budget. With a 3700x and looking at 100fps ultra settings, I would assume you are looking to spend slightly more?

    If so, I would probably say your best bet would be a 5700xt variant. Would be able to hit 100ish fps in most current games on ultra/very high, coming just behind the 2070s. It would also allow you some extra headroom for future-proofing and is $100(+) less than the 2070s models .
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    MissesSparrow July 28, 2020
    ayy finally upgrading cant decide ! need help :3
    hello again peops !

    so im finally upgrading my pc a little more

    i havnt upgraded my graphics card ever since i got it gifted 2014 which is the 970

    i currently have a ryzen 5 2600 (got it last year december) x470 gaming pro carbon MB with 16gb ram (also last year december)
    my current games range from assasins creed odyssey where i get like 30 to 40 fps (soon valhalla which i want to have good performance on ) to witcher 3 and so on meaning i enjoy triple A games
    my question now is what would be the better upgrade for me ? i could get the 2060 which was also recommended to me

    or should i upgrade my cpu and would achieve much more through that ? like lets say going to the ryzen 7 3700x

    thanks in adcance for reading! hope i can get some advice <3
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    Ziadul87 September 07, 2019
    Even without XMP, it should run at 2k+ mhz. Try all XMP profiles (if there are multiple profiles).
    My RAM runs at 2133mhz without XMP. It's arvertised as 2400mhz but my Mobo won't support it.

    Btw, what's it say about RAM speed in CPU-Z?
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    Regev July 27, 2020
    Which of these is the best CPU+cooler+motherboard combo?
    Hey guys!

    So, I got a 1TB NVMe, a 700W Platinum+ SFX-L, and a kit of 32GB 3200. Thanks to your advice, I was gonna get the i9-9900 (at 50% off from a family member working for Intel), but when I went to find an ITX motherboard the only one I found in my country that can sustain an i9 is the Phantom, which costs $258. I also read that I'd need to buy a cooler cause the Intel 9th gen stock one sucks, so it's another $59 for the L12S.

    I'm reconsidering options before ordering. Here are possible combinations I found (all with mITX motherboards). I do not need a video card at all, it's purely for productivity uses (lots of text, very heavy browser use, web developing, and some programming). When necessary, I factored in the cheapest 1030 that I found. Also, I used the stock cooler (hope it's enough) on all builds (except the 9900). Listed in order of price:

  • Ryzen 5 3400G = $271 (B350) or $301 (B450)
  • i3 10100 = $300 (B460) or $336 (Z490)
  • i5 10400 = $390 (B460) or $426 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700 = $396 (B350) or $427 (B450) or $497 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600 = $402 (B350) or $419 (B450) or $493 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10500 = $412 (B460) or $448 (Z490)
  • i5 10600 = $427 (B460) or $463 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 2700X = $430 (B350) or $461 (B450) or $531 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 5 3600X = $432 (B350) or $463 (B450) or $533 (X470/B550)
  • i5 10600K = $482 (B460) or $518 ( Z490)
  • Ryzen 5 3600XT = $490 (B350) or $521 (B450) or $591 (X470/B550)
  • Ryzen 7 3700X = $529 (B350) or $560 (B450) or $630 (X470/B550)
  • i7 10700 = $568 (B460) or $604 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 3800X = $574 (B350) or $605 (B450, $675 (X470/B550)
  • i9 9900 = $590 (50% off on CPU, pricey Z390 + Noctua L12S)
  • i7 10700K = $628 (B460) or $664 (Z490)
  • Ryzen 7 3800XT = $653 (B350) or $684 (B450) or $754 (X470/B550)
  • Which configuration gives the best bang for the buck for the uses I listed (without suffering any productivity setback)? Still the i9?

    Thanks <3
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    Karadjgne December 26, 2012
    Things take time. It takes a cpu a certain amount of time to render anything, game frame, web page etc. A stronger cpu can do things in less time as it has more available resources to work with. A 3700x might render a page in 1 second, a 3400G might take 2 seconds. To a cpu that's a huge improvement, massive really. To you, you blinked and it was over with. Can't really say just exactly how much of a difference there is on such a small scale. But when it comes to large scale, that's a different story. Play gta5 on a 3400G and 3700x, there's a fps difference, then add in streaming and the 4 cores of the 3400G just got swamped and fps drops like a bad habit. The 8/16 of the 3700x doesn't even blink.

    Mmorpgs online are even worse. All that AI can be seriously detrimental to fps. I play swtor and in single player ultra have no issues on an i7-3770K with getting 90fps+. 8man op and I'm into 60-90fps range, 16man op and I'm averaging 30fps with all cpu details disabled/min and a 24man world boss fight is miserable at 5-10fps and everything disabled. Just way too much, too intensive, too cpu challenging for even a 8thread i7 at 4.6GHz to handle. 3400G will be far worse as it has no Lcache and not nearly the same resources, even if it does have better IPC. Fastest runner in the world is useless if he has a ball and chain around 1 ankle. Make him stronger, make the chain longer and he'll just lick it up and run.

    B450m-H is a value motherboard. More tailored towards the 3600 or lesser cpus. It'll handle a 3700x just fine under normal circumstances, but Ryzens are dynamic cpus, they boost according to voltages, temps, loads. With no heatsink the VRM's will run hotter and will limit the boosting ability of the cpu. They won't overheat, but instead of seeing nice high boosts, you'll be relegated to more minimal boosts. The cpu will protect itself and the motherboard from excessive power draws.
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    Luigimon July 25, 2020
    FPS spike drops (144 -> 1) for 2-3secs every 1-2mins everywhere
    So this is my problem, I've been struggling since a couple of months ago trying to fix this issue and now I'm on a dead end, because I've pretty much changed all my hardware except for the hard drives and GPU, I took my pc to a computer shop so they could find the root, but at the end they told me that gpu wasn't the problem because they tested it in another pc and it worked fine, so that left me to change the PSU, same problem, then I changed the mobo, cpu and ram but still have the same problem, I also bought an m2 which will arrive on Tuesday because right now I have an SSD and I'm not sure if may be damaged.

    I have posted some videos on these links to show how exactly my fps issue is showing in any game:
    SOT: View: https://youtu.be/eICdwZoSG9M

    Lol #1: View: https://youtu.be/VYKjQs4lv40

    Lol #2: View: https://youtu.be/VSHNfADbAH4


    This is what I've done so far trying to fix this:
    1- Uninstall all video drivers using DDU and reinstalling.
    2- Going back to a previous nvidia driver.
    3- Sfc scan, defragmentation, disck checkUps.
    4- Replacing cables from/to psu
    5- Fresh clean install of windows.
    6- Tested other games and they do have the same problem
    7- Even in windows when I'm typing this post there are some little freeze spikes where it doesn't show what I'm typing until a couple seconds later.
    8- Video benchmarking using FurMark & Unigine Heaven Benchmark, no issues at all it never goes down to 30-40fps on extreme graphics, 50-60fps on ultra.
    9- Replace mobo, cpu and ram.
    10- All heating temperatures doesn't go beyond 60C (Cpu, ram, gpu, mobo, chipset)
    11- Enable DCOP (XMP on Intel) which changed the mhz of my RAM to 3200

    I think that's pretty much it, I have no more ideas on what to do to fix this. Does anyone have experienced/solved a problem like this?

    These are my specs:
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, 3593 Mhz
    MotherBoard: ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI)
    GPU: Asus Rog Strix RTX2060 6G
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB DDR4 3200mhz
    PSU: EVGA SuperNova 850w G2
    SDD: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III
    Monitor: Asus ROG Swift PG278Q, 27-Inch, G-Sync 144hz (DisplayPort)
    Windows 10 Pro
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    Luigimon July 25, 2020
    I was able to fix it after reading a lot of forums, one of them were saying that it have background images as SlideShow every 1 min, which is exactly how I had it. Believe it or not, I changed it to 1 day and I no longer have fps drops in my games.
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    yerjam July 24, 2020
    Is my 3700x faulty? Dual channel memory not working, code "0d". Tried almost everything.
    Hello everyone, I have a feeling there's something wrong with my new CPU. Here are my system specs:
    • CPU: AMD 3700x
    • Motherboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Impact, X570
    • RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16 (CMT32GX4M2C3200C16)
    • PSU: Corsair SF750 80 Plus Platinum
    • GPU: EVGA GTX1070 FTW
    The issue is the system does not POST with dual channel RAM, but it does with RAM in one slot. POST state LEDs light up yellow indicating DRAM fault. I get a POST code error readout of "0d". I have made a post about this issue on another forum and didn't get anywhere. Initially I suspected a faulty motherboard DIMM slot but I have replaced the motherboard and have the same issue. Then I thought it could be the RAM so I got a new set and still have the same issue.

    Here is everything I have tried:
    • System boots with RAM only in slot A1.
    • System does not boot with RAM only in slot B1 or with RAM in both slots.
    • The RAM in question is on the QVL.
    • I have made sure all PSU cables are secured correctly at both ends.
    • I have checked the CPU for bent pins; there aren't any I can see.
    • I have reseated the CPU and rebuilt the system a few times.
    • I have loosened the CPU cooler screws a little (I've heard this can help)
    • I have updated the BIOS to the latest version, didn't work with original BIOS or new one.
    • I have adjusted the RAM speed in the BIOS to match the speed rated on the modules.
    • Tried with DOCP enabled and disabled
    • I have replaced the motherboard, same issue.
    • I have replaced the RAM, same issue.
    • I have played around with some BIOS settings, including RAM voltage. Nothing seems to work. I have cleared CMOS and power cycled and few times, and nothing.
    • I do not have another CPU to try.
    All brand new parts apart from the video card. I have tried everything I can think of and getting nowhere. The last thing left is to replace the CPU, but I want to know if there's anything else I can try, I'm going crazy here.

    Everything else is working correctly with one RAM module installed. No other issues.

    Edit: If anyone finds this post in the future, my problem ended up being a faulty CPU. Got it exchanged and everything is running fine.
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    yerjam September 09, 2012
    If anyone finds this post in the future, my problem ended up being a faulty CPU. Got it exchanged and everything is running fine.
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    44toudy44 July 21, 2020
    Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC vs. MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus
    Hello friends, I'm upgrading my PC. Going to get Ryzen 7 3700X. I wanted to buy motherboard Gigabyte but I get advice in shop to look also onto MSI. In my country (Slovakia) they cost almost same (5 euros less for MSI)
    What's your opinion which one will be better? I'm not planning to use more than one GPU, I have one HDD and one SSD. I'm planning to get later (maybe for christmas) one NVMe SSD. What do you think is better for same price? B550 or X570 ? thanks a lot
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    Math Geek October 15, 2014
    i don't see much of a difference between them really. they both have a decent amount of fan headers and pretty much the same power delivery. usb ports are about the same as well. you get pcie 4.0 either way as well. at this point for me, it comes down to looks. which looks better to you?

    i have the b450 aorus pro wifi and love it. plenty of fan headers and lots of rgb headers if your into that stuff. only thing i did not like was the built in wifi. it is very slow and should be a lot better for the money. so if you plan on using it, know you're probably going to want a better card or dongle to be happy with wifi.

    you won't go wrong with either choice really.
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    MatthewPav July 18, 2020
    Is the Dark Rock Slim good enough for the Ryzen 7 3700x?
    Want to use this cooler because it has good RAM clearance but don't know if its good enough. No overclocking.
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    Ralsei October 01, 2018
    Yes, it'll work just fine.
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    JC11 July 18, 2020
    Need your thoughts on buying Ryzen CPU's
    Hello All,

    Need your advice. I live in India and because of COVID, the prices have increased. The Ryzen 5 CPU 3600 sells at 226$ and Ryzen 7 CPU2700 sells at 194$. I was also looking at 3700x which sells at 387$. The b550 tomahawk motherboard sells at 227$ and b450 pro carbon ac at 170$. I was actually planning to buy 3600 but since the next-gen console runs at 8 cores so I was thinking of investing in 8 core CPU to future proof myself.


    Please let me know whether I should wait for the price drop or go with 2700 or wait for Ryzen 4000 series. I usually don't upgrade my CPU often so please consider that too.
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    madmatt30 January 01, 2013
    Honestly depends on your budget.

    The 2700 is still a good cpu, and will last years performance wise.

    I'm running a gen 1 ryzen 1700 (early adopter) , it does everything I need it do and I honestly don't see myself replacing it for at least 5 years.

    At those prices the 2700 and b450 pro carbon still make sense imo.

    Especially if it leaves more budget for the rest of the components.
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    user.anonymous July 17, 2020
    Should I use both ports to install my graphics card?
    Greetings
    Recently, I have built a pc and I have been having trouble connecting the display. I figured out there wasn’t anything wrong with the DP or monitor after some trial and error and switching out many cables/etc so right now, my thought is this:

    My graphics card comes with two fans and two ports. One port is able to hold eight pins while the other only holds six pins. Before, I was only using one port which was the eight-pin port to connect the graphics card to the PSU. I was curious to know whether or not it would be a good idea to use both ports. My concern here is that the second cable for my graphics card can hold up to eight pins but it is a divided cable, so six pins can be plugged in while two extra pins just aren’t plugged into anything. I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to use this cable because I fear it will cause damage to my MB or other components of the build. Any thoughts? Is this unheard of? (see specs below)

    The reason I am considering using both ports is because I was told that the reason my display isn’t setting up is because I’m only using half my wattage. I have 550 watts in total but it was theorized to me that only having one port connected to the PSU uses only half of the power so in reality I would be using 275 watts which is clearly an uneven power distribution within the build. Not sure how true this is but it made sense to me at least.

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core, 16-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Prism LED Cooler
    MB: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS Motherboard (AMD AM4, PCIe 4.0, DDR4, SATA 6Gb/s, M.2, USB 3.2 Gen 2, HDMI, ATX)
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz C16 DDR4 DRAM Memory Kit – Black
    SSD: Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 500GB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology (MZ-V7S500B/AM)
    GPU (graphics): EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER XC GAMING, 8GB GDDR6, Dual HDB Fans, RGB LED, Metal Backplate, 08G-P4-3162-KR
    Case: Phanteks Pro M Series (PH-ES515PTG_BK) Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case, Black
    HDD: WD Blue 2TB PC Hard Drive - 7200 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD10EZEX
    Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB Gaming Keyboard – IP42 Dust and Water Resistance – 6 Programmable Macro Keys – Dedicated Media Keys - Detachable Palm Rest Included
    PC: Dell Computer Ultrasharp U2415 24.0-Inch Screen LED Monitor, Black
    PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3, 80 Plus Gold 550W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode with New HDB Fan, 7 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-G3-0550-Y1



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    hang-the-9 March 25, 2010
    You not only should consider using both power ports, if you want the card to work properly and prevent damage to it, you NEED to use both power ports. If the card did not need both to be used the vendor would not have put them there. It's not an optional thing. Reading the card specs and instructions is a good idea before installing things.

    You also have some odd idea about the power from the PSU to the system, not really sure what your thoughts are there about only using half the power to the system and uneven distribution. If you have a 550 watt power supply that does not mean you want the system to be drawing that power the whole time, in fact that would be very bad. That rating is the max power output that PSU will give to your components, you should have about a 25% buffer or better between what your PSU max wattage is and what your components need at full load.

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    UNDEADWARRIOR76 July 14, 2020
    MSI RTX 2070 Super Ventus OC coil whine randomly starts after a month of use
    Ive had my MSI 2070 super ventus oc for a month now and havent heard a peep. Now suddenly as I start a LEGO game, it starts to coil whine and now does it for all my games. I've heard of it being an immediate out of the box thing, but is it starting after a month normal?

    PC Specs:
    CPU: Ryzen 3700x
    GPU: MSI RTX 2070 Super Ventus OC
    RAM: G.Skill Trident z 3600
    PSU: EVGA 1200 P2 (I know its overkill, long story)
    MoBo: MSI X570 UNIFY
    CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D15
    Case: Corsair 760t Graphite
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    keith12 August 08, 2008
    Sometimes the coil whine can be related to the PSU.

    It's typically caused by vibrations in the inductors on GPU's as the current switches very frequently.

    It's still covered under warranty, I'd just go RMA it straight away.

    List your full PC spec.

    There are lots of threads online with similar problems for 2070 owners.

    Edit: Came across this on EVGA's website: https://forums.evga.com/How-common-is-coil-whine-on-the-RTX-2070-SUPER-m3004655.aspx
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    C_Bernard July 14, 2020
    Problem turning PC on.
    Hello there. I'm new here, so, thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

    I am having a small problem but that bugs me quite a bit. If I completely power off the computer, when I am trying to turn it on, it won't turn on the first time I press the power button, instead the front Led panel of the rig witll turn on for a second and then turn off immediately, just like when you unplug the PC and press the power button to discharge the remaining electricity. Then if I press the button again it will turn on normally. And then if I put the PC on rest mode, if I try to wake it up right away it will, but after a couple of minutes or maybe an hour or so, if I try to wake it by clicking on the mouse or pressing a key, the same thing will happen, the front LED will flash and the computer won't wake. I have to press the power button after that to wake it properly. It's the only problem I'm having but it seems oddly specific.

    I don't know if my specs will help with this but here they are anyway:

    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core 3.59 GHz,
    32 GB RAM
    Cougar CMX 850 power supply
    Cooler Master Masterliquid Lite 240
    GPU NVidia RTX 2080 SUPER
    ASRock B450 Steel Legend Motherboard

    All of it inside a Cougar case.

    Thanks!